X-Message-Number: 15355 From: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:31:58 EST Subject: Wakfer quick note Wakfer's # 15349 includes this: >nothing I have said above in any many strengthens Ettinger's position that the >methods used by CI are in any manner superior to those advocated by 21CM. Where have I said that the CI procedures are superior to those advocated by 21CM? I have emphasized primarily two things in the recent go-rounds: 1. CI relies mainly on its own observations and evaluations of its results by qualified professionals. We have had no opportunity to test methods advocated by 21CM. 2. Fred Chamberlain's claims for Alcor's current "vitrification" procedure are exaggerated. The exaggeration is primarily in the headline ("Vitrification arrives!") and in reporting techniques such as showing photos of tissue rewarmed from - 80 C only, in failing to make clear to hasty or uncritical readers that the evidence of efficacy is partial, indirect, based on small samples, and not confirmed by independent investigators. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15355