X-Message-Number: 15579 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Mr. Smith goes to CI - #15563 Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:42:13 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- > Message #15572 > Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 04:39:44 -0500 > From: Paul Antonik Wakfer <> > Subject: Mr. Smith goes to CI - #15563 > References: <> <del> > > But one tragic drunk driver, one unforeseen accident and it will be too late <del> Possibly I haven't got this clear in my mind, but at that point in time there appear to be two possible scenarios: 1. Mr A dies in accident and he is signed up 2. Mr A dies in accident and he is not signed up What Mr A has done with money he has *not* bequested, entrusted or already sent (directly or via insurance) to the cryonics organisation concerned in case 1 (cryopreservation) doesn't seem to me to affect the outcome for Mr A (and possibly friends and relations he has also funded) here in any serious way. Would Mr A's future be better protected by leaving as much extra funding as possible to his cryonics organisation *or* hedging his bets buy leaving some to rival organisations in case they had got it right instead of his own? In case 2 (rotting or burning) whether Mr A had gifted his money to a cryonics organisation or to some research charity will not affect the future outcome of the History of Mr A - there isn't any future for him. I think cryonics is a special case where hedging is not possible. All the organisations allow switching as far as I know (as long as financial arrangements are adequate.) If you are in doubt, then make financial arrangements adequate for the most expensive option and then select the one you currently think "the best of a bad job". *Then* ask, query, do your own research, whatever. If you have excess funds, then give them where you want. You may prefer that to raising the money yourself (eg via investment) to perform the research you think needed and at what terms you think appropriate. But remember that all cryonics organisations call their "prices" minima and recommend that people provide more where possible, in their own best interests. Some inflate the price of their minimum, but as global inflation seems set to be low at present this is less of a risk than it was. But you still may not be able to afford the highest technology option unless your method of funding is linked to the growth of technology. Life insurance enthusiasts - if any of you ever find a life insurance bond that is linked to technology growth - please post details on cryonet or email me personally so I can put details on http://www.geocities.com/longevityrpt/shares.htm . > Would Mr Smith or Mr Ettinger please tell us what percentage of CI > patients were signed up more that two weeks before cryopreservation? > For ACS and for CryoCare I know these statistics. It would also be > interesting to know them for Alcor. I'd like to know that for all 4 organisations as well. If everyone is willing to make a return of the values, I can put a table in Longevity Report. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz my homepage links to Longevity Report, Fractal Report, music, Inventors' report, an autobio and various other projects: http://www.geocities.com/longevityrpt http://www.autopsychoice.com - should you be able to chose autopsy? Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15579