X-Message-Number: 15648 From: Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:24:22 EST Subject: planned suspensions Phil Rhoades (#15629) makes the point that we (people generally) should try to change laws/customs to allow more individual control, and in particular to allow someone who is dying to choose the time and means of death, both to save suffering and money and, in the case of cryonics members, to allow planned suspensions under controlled conditions. Of course he is right, but there are other options besides (1) accepting present customs and (2) changing laws. A third option is to find cracks in the system. One such crack--pretty small, but a crack--involves the hospice system. Someone who dies at home under hospice care can--at least in some jurisdictions--do pretty much as he pleases, or the family can. When my wife Mae died in Scottsdale last year, only family were present (and our local funeral director very shortly after); it wasn't even necessary to have a professional pronounce death--I did that, with delay measured in seconds. An even better way would be for the patient to "commit suicide" with a team standing by, without waiting for natural death. Suicide is not illegal in Michigan, although assisting in a suicide is illegal. The problem is the requirement of autopsy in cases of sudden or suspicious death. With a sympathetic attending physician, there might be no problem, especially in a hospice situation. But some of us would like to go further, and plan a suspension when the quality of life becomes too low, even if natural death is not imminent. This could be done, perhaps, by conferring in advance with the local medical examiner, explaining your plans, and inviting him to have a representative present, for assurance that the patient himself "committed suicide" with no assistance and while in full possession of his faculties. The medical examiner would then promise to waive autopsy. No change in laws required--only a reasonable medical examiner. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15648