X-Message-Number: 15723 From: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:38:20 EST Subject: Re: CryoNet #15610 - #15615 In regard to Prof Ettinger's carefully chosen comments re "Grimes etc," Message #15612, I am moved to provide testimonial to the honesty and integrity of this man who I have known since 1966 as a charter member of the Cryonics Society of Michigan. I am tremendously impressed to this day by his extreme patience and willingness to give level-headed and thoughtful responses even in the face of what appear to be vitriolic and personalized attacks, sometimes presented in the form of "questions." We all know that he is inevitably nearing the time when he himself will be cryopreserved and it should be obvious that he will do all he can within his considerable frame of knowledge and experience to make sure he, himself, gets the best chance of returning to life, just as he has done for so many others. I took his comments on vitrification to be fair commentary of a very interested observer and not at all the sniping of a jealous competitor as some seem to feel. I am sure he is not right about everything but his comments are all thoughtful and well-reasoned, coming from a depth of experience no other can match. In returning to a strong interest in Cryonics after a 25 year hiatus I was very heartened and, yes, comforted to know that he remained an active leader of the movement. I ask my fellow cryonetters to please award this man the great respect that he has earned and continues to deserve as the founder and pre-eminent leader of this movement. Ronald G. Havelock, PhD, OD 1654 Cedar Lane Shady Side MD 20764 tel: 301-261-5518 I do have a videotape copy of the excellent ABC presentation but I am not sure I know how to share it with anyone. It should have some salutory effect on the movement but as a sometime expert on communication and persuasion I don't expect a breakthrough from such a limited exposure. I remember well the Ettinger appearances on Johnny Carson, some of which were sympathetic and respectful [at least from Mr Carson, himself] and they helped the fledgling 'movement' at the time, but sadly there was no breakthrough. Now a recluse in his old age, I can't help wondering if Johnny Carson ever gives us a thought. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15723