X-Message-Number: 15756
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:37:38 EST
Subject: Grimes quickies

A few quick small points possibly worth mentioning in re Grimes' latest:

Ice blockers: These are only useful in the vitrification context, as 
privately confirmed by an Alcor consultant. Even so, as I said, we have 
several different kinds scheduled for testing down the line.

Toxicity of vitrification CPAs: Grimes took one segment, formerly on our web 
site, that was intended by the writer as part of historical perspective. 
After a private communication indicated that it could have been 
unintentionally misleading, it was deleted or changed. 

Toxicity etc.:  Grimes has misrepresented the record, although I won't bother 
to retrieve all the statements. The INC people themselves disagreed with each 
other in public, or appeared to do so through wording that wasn't quite 
careful enough. No big deal. Nothing I have said was wrong in any important 
respect. If Grimes wants to persist in this kind of stuff, fine. I have lots 
more material not yet used.

P.R. etc.:  We have never, to my knowledge, treated Alcor or anyone else 
unfairly, and in fact have almost always been on the more generous side. As 
just one example, as I have mentioned before, our site has links to all the 
others, but Alcor's does not have links to ours, last I looked. In addition, 
Alcor's has remarks that could easily be interpreted to mean that CI is 
"unethical" because its prices are too low. Maybe more about this another 
time. On the other hand, there have been many instances of cooperation, going 
both ways, and we hope this will dominate the future.

Robert Ettinger
Cryonics Institute
Immortalist Society

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