X-Message-Number: 15789 Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:22:02 -0500 From: James Swayze <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #15772 - #15778 References: <> CryoNet wrote: > CryoNet - Fri 2 Mar 2001 > > #15772: [off topic] Luddites [Joseph Kehoe] > > > The following is off topic and not directly related to cryonics. It is a response to a previous post regarding "luddites". Skip if you are not interested. > Not off topic at all. These Luddites would put a stop to cryonics just as fast as any other of their gripes. This is especially so for the environmentalist leaning ones. I'm an environmentalist but I at least have a brain. > > I am not a luddite by any means but it is wrong to treat people who disagree with our views as if > they are ill-informed unintelligent people. But they ARE ill-informed, some must be unintelligent because they choose to stay ignorant. I am certain Rifkin is a moron. ;) > They are correct on a number of points: > I can agree with YOU about much of what YOU say but not with them. They, this bunch listed in the report in question, are not interested in debate or discussion or fair comprehension of the facts. Their minds are made up. This should be evident by their willingness to use underhanded, fraudulent even, propaganda techniques that distort the facts. Talk about end justfies the means! These IDIOTS won't be happy until we all are living a quiet pastoral existence devoid of all technology happily birthing, living and then dying ad infinitum as before till time ends. Yes we need to make sure ethics are considered and we must make sure or progression is made sanely and safely but who decides that? I don't want the scientifically challenged or the religiously fanatical making up the rules. I was on a panel for a local television program discussing the prospect of cloning. We had pros and cons attending. The facilitator interviewed a woman that was against cloning of any kind. She had little knowledge of science but had an opinion none the less. The facilitator used me sitting next to her for an example. He asked if she would oppose cloning even if it could bring about a cure for my quadripligia. She hedged a little uncomfortable for being put-on-the-spot and then admitted that yes she'd throw my life away if it meant cloned-for-experimentation animals weren't created. Stupid b... er ah luddite! Luddites shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion unless they can prove knowledge of all relating subjects!! Just kidding. ;) James Swayze -- Some of our views are spacious some are merely space--RUSH Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15789