X-Message-Number: 15879 From: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:57:32 EST Subject: savants; happiness Patrick Swayze (#15875) has some good comments about savant capabilities and human improvability. This is similar to some of my comments in MAN INTO SUPERMAN--I said we don't need to invent superhumans, only assemble them from existing material, in a manner of speaking, taking (where compatible) the best from existing individuals and existing species, and also "slaving" computers to the brain as prostheses. It should become possible also to retrofit cryopatients to make us just as super as the latest generation. However, this does not altogether avoid potential "singularity" or "spike" problems. When Damien Broderick said "all bets are off or moot" in event of a spike, I think he meant, at least in part, that there might be drastically new conditions of life and new outlooks, regardless of whether conscious computers are ruling the roost, and the results would be almost totally unpredictable. But, to repeat myself, there is no assurance that the results of revolutionary ideas would spread like lightning. After all, there are physical as well as societal constraints. You might be able to grow a factory with nanotech, once you were able to design and fabricate the seeds and plant them in prepared ground, but trees don't grow to the sky, and especially not in a day, and there are always lots of unexpected problems to be shaken out before the prototype is finished. Thomas Donaldson voiced questions about definitions of "happiness" and its relation to achievement etc. From a cryonics standpoint, I think the thing to remember is that "happiness" ("morale" or possibly "zest" might be a better word here) is to a considerable extent just a question of chemistry or hormone balance as well as temperament. Young and healthy people are rarely depressed for any length of time, whereas old and sick people may not even have the energy to WANT anything except surcease. Of course, habits are important too. I am old and tired, and have lost Mae, but I keep going and even keep developing new ideas and projects. I'm not bragging, because my failures dwarf my achievements by almost any measure; this is just a reminder that doing predisposes one to doing, while just complaining sets the stage for default. As Mae always said, we have little control over the environment in the short run, but we have considerable (subjective) freedom of choice in our own actions, reactions and outlooks. You don't always get what you choose, but you're more likely to get it if you choose it and work for it. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=15879