X-Message-Number: 15996
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 15:49:12 -0800
From: Lee Corbin <>
Subject: Re: Private Property

Phil wrote

>Lee,
>>Those schemes in the past that did not agree to respect
>>private property floundered and failed...

>This is not accurate - for most of human existence,
>"society" has probably been setup on a hunter-gatherer
>system with no real conception of "private property". 

Hi Brother Phil!  (Lately I've had the irresistable
urge to address all cryonicists as Brother or Sister.)
Yes, and not only do primitive peoples not have private
property, life with hunter-gatherer morality is even
imbedded in our genes, which is the reason that
capitalism strikes so many as evil.

>Even in historical times most of the periods have been 
>dominated by some form of feudalism and all-powerful
>war-lord or king or something.

Correction appreciated.  I meant to be speaking of
modern times (i.e., since 1700).

>Just because all you have experienced is western
>"democracy", don't think that is all that has ever 
>been or that is all that will ever be . . it is
>quite likely to be just another interesting,
>brief, historical phenomenon in the future . .

Alas, what you say is so true.  The whole idea
of me being able to run my affairs with little
interference from those who are stronger, or who
have more charisma, or ruthlessness, or political
power, or wealth..., well it's been nice while
it's lasted, but it probably won't continue
much longer, given the upheavals soon to come.

Or do you think that future set-ups will be better
than what we have?   I hope that you don't suppose
that if we had just the RIGHT "all-powerful lords",
then everything would be peechy-keen.

Bro Lee

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