X-Message-Number: 16140 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:32:24 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: comments on duplicates, nanotech Hi everyone! Some comments about messages for #16128-16130: First, though I've already said that duplicating a person is likely to be far harder than those on Cryonet seem to believe, I will add that the recent note by Swayze doesn't come near the issue, even if duplication can be done. The problem is not whether or not YOU believe that someone is your duplicate, but whether someone is your duplicate independently of your beliefs. This matter becomes even more complex because duplicates will very quickly CEASE to be duplicates when both are aware and conscious. Even having sex with your duplicate will cause that duplicate to cease to be a duplicate: a close twin, yes, but hardly a duplicate. As for reviving someone without using nanotechnology, a lot depends here on the definition of nanotechnology. Even biochemistry uses molecules and modifies them, so in a sense we already have nanotechnology ... we just want a more powerful variety. Moreover, we should not restrict our ideas to those of nanotechnology in any case: so long as we can truly suspend and revive someone, then the technology used to do so should not matter to ANY cryonicist. Moreover, if anyone wants information about the work of INF or 21st Century Medicine, they can try to get it from Greg has worked as a major player with both organizations. It seems to me that this work deserves major support from ALL cryonicists, whether or not they believe that nanotechnology will help. And of course, about aging, I will say the same thing ... though (believe it or not) the case that some kind of nanotechnology will help us defeat aging completely (not just slow it down) seems to me to be stronger than that for cryonics. Best wishes and long long life for all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16140