X-Message-Number: 16315 Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:55:02 -0400 From: <> Subject: Criminal Negligence (message 16311) Somebody on the list has alleged criminal negligence on the part of a service provider X. If there's evidence of this i imagine it should be forwarded to the district attorney ("DA") in the relevant jurisdiction. But what could the crime be? Suppose you have a dying loved one and you don't just want to follow the herd, but use the brain God gave you to do something about it. So you talk to X, and they say that for a certain price P they will freeze your loved one. No guarantees, but the state of your loved one will be locked in place until something can be done. You agree, you pay, they freeze. Has any crime been committed against you? I think the only crime would be if service provider X didn't really freeze your loved one. And if that's the case the DA really should be brought in. So, i think the question is, why does any other party care? What could possibly motivate strong feelings about a particular service provider X? Especially by any party not directly affected? I think that as cryonicists dwelling in glass houses we should be careful not to throw stones. If any of us are successful it helps all of us, even if only to motivate further research in how to deal with difficult cases (e.g., Bedford's). Likewise, growth on the part of any organization helps draw in more interest for all of the organizations, and every organization will get some percentage of newly signed up cryonicists. Best wishes for all, and i hope that many of us can live for centuries without freezing, but as Thomas D likes to point out, there will always be some need for freezing, and there will always be suboptimal cases, and we should never give up on someone just because right at this moment we don't know how to fix him. I hope nobody is contemplating thawing out Bedford---actually doing this would be a real crime. dan Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16315