X-Message-Number: 1638
Date: 18 Jan 93 17:46:34 EST
From: MICHAEL RISKIN <>
Subject: CRYONICS 

     If there is any single reason future generations wont want to
thaw us out and give us unlimited life, it will because they have read
cryonet mail in the 20th century, and came to the correct conclusion
that cryonicists were no more evolved than the "Joe six packs" so 
readily defamed in 1993 email.  Why would a future generation, capable
of reversing the aging process, growing snazzy new bodies for our
suspended brains, and possibly totally aware that cooperative effort
and acknowledging ones own mistakes  were among the primary conditions for
quality life, want any of us?     
    

    No matter what the controversial or political issue may be,individual
leadership would have you believe the facts are stacked 100 % in support
of their position and that the only mistake these sainted beings ever made
was to be unwittingly misled by the other side, who of course besides
being dead wrong about THEIR facts are also lowly, contemptible, and
immoral, besides suffering from mental illness.
     Our leaders... hah! 
     Shame on the lot of you.
And it is getting worse . It would be nice to think that we had learned
something after the Carlos debacle. Imagine...Mike Darwin  likening the
opposition to cowards and scoundrels, and Ralph Whelan (who wasnt even
the opposition) writing "Mike (Darwin) has written an article that is a
gross travesty of half truths and selective memory...."  and Keith Henson
concluding that Ralph wasnt man enough to stand up to threats, and Saul
saying "I find the jealousy and arrogance displayed by Keith utterly
outrageous",  and Dave Pizer , writing to Saul, " You have never fully
admitted that you made major mistakes in the (Dick Jones) matter" and
on she goes ending (starting?) with personal attacks on Carlos, who has
been known to make one or two uncomplementary remarks about Mike. Ah,
the circle is complete. And orbiting about is Paul Wakfer , maligned
by many, currently aligned with Mike and Saul .
      Here is my want list for 1993. From:
Mike (I've been done dirty) Darwin- "I have some personal shortcomings
  that occassionally lead to less than effective leadership."

Carlos (Call me martyr) Mondragon "I sometimes open mouth before engaging
brain and say something inappropriate."

Paul (If it aint libertarian, waste it) Wakfer-"I was wrong about something
 once."

Keith (hit em harder) Henson- "There was once an incident in my life
  where I slightly altered the facts to prove a point."

Ralph (I aint no wimp) Whelan-"As hard as I try, my emotions sometimes
  interfere with my objectivity."

Dave (I'm really a pussycat) Pizer-"I act tough, but am really scared,
  and that colors my judgment."

 Saul (It's just cause I care) Kent- "From time to time, I may have 
  motives that arent necessarily clear."

        I am hoping the current"Saul, what really happened in N.Y."
and the responses therewith, do not signal the start of further
polarization among us.

     So , it's 2093, and Joe six pack is watching super bowl 127.
Do you think he's gonna help the cryonicists thaw us out based on
what history will say abou us?      

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