X-Message-Number: 16455 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:07:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 40'th update on fly longevity experiments This is the 40'th update of my fly longevity experiments. In addition to my latest fly results, I've also included in this update the results of a series of experiments testing the satiating abilities of various foods. In fly Run #40 I take a look again at the effects of fruit juices, and compare this with varying the amount of citric acid. Control and juice bottles all had 1/4 tsp citric acid added. Doubling the amount of citric acid yielded results that could not be distinguished from that of the control. This correspondance is so close, I wonder whether the acid was indeed doubled. In any case further increasing citric acid to 1 tsp was clearly beneficial. The addition of any fruit juice increased maximum lifespan beyond that obtained with either 1/4 or 1/2 tsp citric acid. Only 1 tsp citric acid yielded results comparible to that obtained with the juices. I doubt the juices increase longevity by their acidity. Instead they may provide a factor which reduces the toxicity of citric acid. One hypothesis I will be testing is that citric acid may induce a potassium deficiency, which in turn may harm longevity. A very small amount of additional potassium has been found to increase fly longevity in a published experiment. (Mechanisms of Ageing and Development 16: 221-231 1981) Run #40 Percent Survival on Day supplement 32 38 44 50 57 63 69 75 79 85 91 96 101 106 ____________________________________________________________________ control 66 57 57 43 37 23 9 0 - - - - - - apple juice 60% 90 85 75 70 60 45 40 40 35 30 15 10 0 - apple juice 100% 67 64 61 58 50 22 25 25 19 8 3 0 - - apple juice, Okanagan 75 75 75 71 71 50 25 18 14 7 0 - - - citric acid 1/2 tsp 59 50 55 45 41 23 5 5 0 - - - - - citric acid 1 tsp 84 78 72 59 53 34 28 22 9 6 3 0 - - grape juice 93 90 88 85 80 71 61 20 7 0 - - - - grapefruit juice, pink 82 79 74 68 56 44 21 15 15 6 3 0 - - grapefruit juice, white 66 59 50 41 28 22 13 9 6 0 - - - - orange juice 82 79 68 61 43 32 21 14 14 7 4 4 4 0 pineapple juice 70 63 63 60 50 27 13 7 7 3 0 - - - Testing the satiating ability of various foods, or food combinations, using only a single subject (myself) is rather problematic. Statistically meaningful results would not be obtained during a single meal, since calorie intake varies too much from meal to meal. If only a single food was consumed over a week I imagine the results would be meaningful. I decided to compromise and eat only one food or combination, for one day and measure calories consumed on a per day basis. The first food tested was whole grain rye bread, with no toppings. Intake over one day was calculated at 1388 calories. I found the "staff of life" to be tasteless, but filling. Second food was Gala apples. Unlike the bread, eating apples proved to be a chore. They had very poor short term satiating ability. I'd "fill up" on apples, but still remain hungry for a short period of time. This undesirable side effect might be due to an induced protein deficiency. I vowed not to test any more food combinations that had no protein in them. At the end of the day I was hungry again, but the idea of trying to go to sleep on a stomach filled with apples held little appeal. To compensate for going to bed humgry, I added a 150 calorie fudge factor to bring up daily intake to ab libitum levels. With this correction, estimated ad libitum intake was 1413 calories, which is remarkably close to that for rye bread. Third food was Astro no fat lactose reduced yogurt. Unlike the other foods, this involved some variety, as both strawberry, blueberry, and peach yogurt was consumed. Daily intake was 1483 calories, which is not significantly different from the other foods. Palatibility was much higher than the other foods. Fourth food was boiled whole potatoes. I was rather surprised to find I consumed 2179 calories of these. However the next day I spontaneously skipped lunch, due to lack of hunger. I suspect a longer term test lasting several days would have yielded results not significantly different from the other foods. Fifth food was Ryvita high fiber whole rye crispbread. This was much drier that regular bread, but intake was only slightly higher at 1564 calories. Sixth was a combination, alternating one container of Astro no fat yogurt with one Gala apple, all day long. Some experiments with rodents find that dietary variety stimulates intake. My own experience is that eating some yogurt with an apple is more satisfying than either alone. I guessed calorie intake with this combination would be reduced. The scientists say it should go up. Total intake of both yogurt and apples was 1976 calories. Looks like the scientists win this one. Seventh food was mixed vegetables, including carrots, cauliflower, and broccoli. To provide protein I also ate one 500 gm container of no-fat cottage cheese (336 calories) with the vegetables. Total intake including both vegetables and cottage cheese was 1768 calories. Some Doctors recommend vegetables as healthy diet foods. Healthy they may be, but vegetables certainly are not good diet foods for this spare tire! Further satiation experiments will be reported with the next fly longevity update. FOOD DAILY CALORIE INTAKE ______________________________________ apple, Gala 1413 potato 2179 (skipped lunch next day) rye bread 1388 rye crispbread 1564 vegetables/cottage cheese 1768 yogurt, no fat 1483 yogurt & apple 1976 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16455