X-Message-Number: 16592 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:41:27 -0400 From: <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #16574 - #16586 References: <> Hi Louis, Thanks for posing the question: > But are you prepared to say that anyone who thinks there is anything > at all wrong with homosexuality is not a bigot? There's a great deal of substance in what Mike Darwin wrote, which needs to be dealt with seriously---i don't think it's enough just to say `Reproduction is why there is such a thing as sexuality'. Reproduction is only one of the reasons why evolution came up with sex. (See the popular accounts by Matt Ridley for example.) I think you should make a good faith effort to work through what Mike wrote. And it's his arguments that count, not whether he is a genius, whether tortured or ignorantly bliss. If he says something that is wrong, point it out, but i don't think you should just dismiss it as the `nihilist worldview of biology'. The scientific worldview is crucial in our attempt to save our lives. If you carefully study what Mike wrote, and read about evolutionary biology, and in that context still feel that homosexuality is `wrong', then of course people should be more careful before using the word `bigot'. But study and sustained, serious thought are necessary. (And of course i'm specifically not addressing the feeling that homosexuality is wrong for religious reasons.) Finally, let me say that i hope nothing i say causes any contention that would prevent anybody from signing up with a cryonics organization. That in particular includes you, Louis, and i hope you can find a way to join some cryonics organization. Your life is important, no matter what you believe about homosexuality. Life is more important than belief. dan Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16592