X-Message-Number: 16609 From: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:52:41 EDT Subject: Here are Some Numbers Jessica Lemler asked for some numbers to back up my assertions about women in the military. Here they are. I'm still thinking about how to address the more subjective problem of the contribution of gay males to cryonics. NUMBERS FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT: An excellent reference on the incidence of sexual harassment of females in the military can be found at: http://www.nwlc.org/pdf/Military%20Harassment.pdf. This paper is a compilation of a number of both government and private studies of this issue. The following excerpt is relevant to my claims: A 1980 Pentagon study found that 60% of women in the Navy had been sexually harassed; a 1984 study found that 84% of Navy women sampled had been sexually harassed. The 1980 Study Group of Progress of Women in the Navy found that over half of the 1,400 women interviewed had been victims of sexual harassment while in the Navy. The DOD Task Force on women in the Military in 1988 reported that sexual harassment remains a "significant problem" in all the services. A 1990 study of over 20,000 military personnel conducted by the Defense Manpower Data Center found that nearly 2 out of every three women were sexually harassed in the prior year. Typical victims were enlisted women but 12% were female officers. Other sites of interest on this topic are: http://www.militarywoman.org/harass2.htm http://womenshistory.about.com/homework/womenshistory/cs/military197090/ http://home.rmci.net/cbolton/GAYS.HTM The following site contains an extensive bibliography relating to problems of women in the military, as well as the benefits. Many of the studies are available on-line: http://www.nwc.navy.mil/library/3Publications/Eccles%20Library/LibNotes/libwom en.htm NUMBERS FOR PREGNANCIES WHILE ON ACTIVE DUTY: Data on the pregnancy rate for female military personnel are available in the following report: "Military Attrition," United States General Accounting Office, Washington, D.C., GAO/NSIAD-98-213, September 1998, pp. 5-45. To summarize: At any given time, up to 18% of Navy women are pregnant and a study of two ships showed a pregnancy rate as high as one in three. That's nearly 8,423 women, or enough to crew almost two aircraft carriers. During Desert Storm, 1,145 women on ships needed to be reassigned because of pregnancies, at an average of 95 per month. Data from the USS Eisenhower, which was the first combat vessel opened to female crew members, demonstrated that pregnancies increased from five to 39 in within the space of a few months. At the conclusion of one tour of duty 13% of the female crew became pregnant. A major problem with this is that current policy requires pregnant sailors to leave shipboard duties and does not provide a mechanism for their replacement. One reason for the pregnancy problems may be the following CURRENT policy on abortions for US female military personnel and female dependents of male military personnel: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/3825/country/militarywoman/abortion.html: "The Department of Defense Appropriations Act for FY 1996 and the Department of Defense Authorization Act for FY 1996 revise the DoD policy. Prepaid abortions are no longer allowed, except in cases in which the pregnancy is the result of an act of rape or incest. Please assure compliance with the new law. Authority to provide prepaid abortions in overseas facilities is limited to cases in which the pregnancy is the result of an act of rape or incest. The new statutory provision does not affect the current law or policy regarding abortions in cases in which the life of the mother would be endangered if the fetus were carried to term. In such cases, abortions may be provided using appropriated funds." That's the current policy. Military women defending our country overseas can't terminate an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy at a Military hospital, even if they pay for it and a Doctor agrees to do it, unless it's rape, incest or it endangers the mother's life. In rape or incest cases, the servicewoman must pay for the abortion. Current News: On June 9th, 1999, an attempt by Reps. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) and Carrie Meek (D-FL) to lift the ban on privately funded abortions for military personnel and dependents stationed overseas in overseas military medical facilities failed. I think there's some serious problems with this policy. I'm not going to go into the morality of people's sexual activities; that's their business. Instead, I'll say this: Sometimes people DO get pregnant when they don't want to, for a variety of reasons, including failure of the birth control method in use. If a servicewoman becomes pregnant before she's ready, she's left with these options: a. Take leave (if possible) from her duty station to fly (if she has the money) back to the US to pay for her abortion. b. Go to a foreign hospital (which may be of questionable sanitation or development) where they speak a foreign language to receive an abortion (if they perform them.) c. Wait until her pregnancy has advanced far enough for the government to fly her back to the US, where she'll have the baby. From there she'll receive orders. About 4 to 6 months after delivery she'll need to either leave the child to fulfill her duties overseas (if unaccompanied), or take the child with her, if possible. In a few cases, she may be kept stateside with the child. This is bad for her career, her training, and the unit, who will do without her for a year or more. Pregnancy is considered an "unplanned loss", and therefore replacements are rarely sent. Ideally, we'd never have any unplanned pregnancies. But let's be realistic. It happens all the time in the civilian sector. Military women are just like everyone else. I haven't even touched on the problems for female dependents overseas. This policy applies just as strongly to the serviceman whose 15 year old daughter gets pregnant. Think about it." Obviously, these numbers are open to interpretation. It depends on what you consider acceptable. I do not consider these numbers acceptable and I concede that this is a personal evaluation. An added factor causing resentment in the military with totally equal deployment of women is that their lifting and carrying capacity is typically less than that of men. A problem with failing to take this into account is that male personnel often end up doing extra duty to compensate for females assigned to their unit. The problem here is NOT with women, it is with ignoring a biological fact that upper body strength and general physical strength is greater on average in men than in women. This doesn't make women inferior; they have other advantageous traits in the military environment that men don't have. However, ignoring these differences leads to problems and there are multiple instances of complaints relating to this kind of thoughtless policy making. Finally, I have no problems with women or gays in the military per se, just problems with their presence as things are currently configured. Changes in how the military is organized and changes in the nature of warfare could address most of these problems. However, as it stands now there is a problem and in my opinion the military is not likely to address it successfully any time soon. The "don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue" policy has been an abject failure and the number of servicepersons ejected from the military for homosexuality is at an all time high (just do a Google or Metacrawler search for hundreds of sites and references documenting and discussing this problem from many perspectives). Mike Darwin Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16609