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From: "Trygve Bauge" <>
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Subject: Re: Regarding estimated costs of establishing a new facility.
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:32:31 +0200

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To Elizabeth,
I do not know of any existing facility that will accept your father.

What I am doing is to check out the prices of what it would cost to establish a 
new facility in Norway.

You could possibly use the proposed budget and list of suppliers to easier 
calculate what it would cost to set up a facility in Australia.

If they won't let you set up a facility in Australia, one could possibly set up 
a facility in Norway, and keep him on dry ice in Australia or in Norway until a 
liquid nitrogen facility has been established.

Establishing a liquid nitrogen facility will likely take several months, e.g. 
ordering and manufacturing and shipping of a cryotank is what that will take the
most time.

However, if the funding is available then renting a small facility and 
establishing a temporary dry ice storage can be done on a few days notice.

Since yesterday I have found out that liquid Nitrogen in small quantities sell 
for kr 22/liter or USD $ 2.5/liter in Norway. However if one where to place a 
facility next to some big supplier or big buyer of liquid nitrogen one can get 
the latter delivered by huge truck for as low as 11kr/liter or USD 1.2/liter. 
That is still 5 times more expensive than in the USA. Thus I checked out the 
price of small mobile liquid nitrogen plants. The unit from Scotland sells for 
39,000 British pounds or about USD 55,000.

Thus local on site liquid nitrogen production is only an option for larger 
cryonic facilities.
Which means we are stuck with the price of USD 1.2/per liter. 

As to suitable locations I expect to know more tomorrow.

However, since a bigfoot dewar can take 4 people, I am posting these messages to
the cryonet, to see if anyone else from Europe or Scandinavia would like to 
join in creating a new facility.


Trygve Bauge

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: elizabeth kostadinova. 
  Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:52 AM
  Subject: regarding estimated cost.

  Dear Tryve,
  Regarding  your ESTIMATEDCOSTS it will be is set a a small storage facility,
  What use is this to me?

  l need someone to help me find a place of storage, or someone to provide a 
  storage facility in AUSTRALIA,OR OTHER COUNTRY.
  No one has done that yet,!

  Unless you are providing these costs to let me now of all costs involved,for a
  ready prepared storage facility in Norway,or a ready prepared storage 
  facility, in Australia, that is prepared to take the body,IMMEDIATELY then 
  this make sense to me .

  Otherwise theuse  this information for me to to set up one at home is not 
  viable,or legally possibleand has no bearing .
  Regards Elizabeth kostadinova.


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