X-Message-Number: 16671 From: "john grigg" <> Subject: the real cost of cryonics... Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:47:07 Hello everyone, I got my Extro pictures developed yesterday and it was great to relive the memories. I wish I had taken more pictures and with a better camera! When I got home I visited my parents to tell them about my trip. My mother considers cryonics and extropianism different but she tries to be understanding. My stepfather of nearly a decade now is not so tolerant. He is certain cryonics is a big scam to steal my money. LOL! Walter is pretty calcified in his thinking on the matter. Perhaps if I shared with him more information and booklets he would soften but I doubt it. Via email my younger brother said he was thrilled that I went. Mike said I should use the connections I made to get a better job! lol If only I had a comp sci or bio degree... I am happy that my life insurance paperwork is finally turned in and will hopefully result in a policy. This in turn can enable me to sign up with Alcor. But, I think about the costs. Due to the urge to be open about myself, and also out of ignorance of how many lists are tied to search engines; I used my online moniker and real name when I posted. This of course made things easily found out about my cryonics and transhumanistic interests. A few years ago I met a gorgeous, gutsy, and intelligent Mormon female from Australia who could be described as my "dream girl." For awhile things were incredibly romantic between us but despite my best efforts, she visited Utah instead of Alaska when she came to the states. I was a poor college student at the time(still poor though, lol) and felt she was out of my league, so I never went down to see her though I felt extremely tortured about the whole thing. Within a few weeks there she met a guy who she later married. I called her a week before the wedding and she complained about all the preparations while I felt anguish about what she was about to do. Becky wanted me to call her later on but I never did. We did do a few brief email exchanges after the marriage and the announcement of her pregnancy. But, she never told me about the birth of the child. I wonder sometimes if she cut me off as 'old baggage' or if a search engine revealed a side to her she did not like. I have tried repeatedly to get a reply from her with no success. Recently there was a nineteen year-old Mormon gal who was from Oregon. She could have been a cast member from the "Beverly Hillbilly's" tv show. My age(33 then) was no problem, she said. We appeared to hit it off really well. Then a sudden and total silence despite numerous queries to her. I also wonder if a search engine run brought up cryonics which absolutely killed her formerly strong interest in me... I don't want to give up my religion and the desire to marry within it, and yet I don't want to give up my goal of being cryonically suspended when necessary. This is a source of real struggle within me. People say the two are not mutually exclusive but it is still a hard new path to be forged. I suppose I should be more upfront about things with women regarding cryonics. But, I am afraid of being rejected immediately so I want to wait awhile. Perhaps, somewhere there is a Mormon gal out there who has the same interest in it that I do. But even if she exists, there is no guarantee we will be compatible in other ways. I look forward to my friend Brent Allsop sending his cryonics letter to the leadership of the church. Perhaps then, cryonics will be seen as somewhat more recognized or accepted within church circles. And even if not, I will know better where I stand. best wishes, John _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16671