X-Message-Number: 16711 From: "ramzy ramzy" <> Subject: Re: Trygve's reply to Ramzy Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:32:58 -0000 Hi, Trygve Bauge, Thanks for your rapid reply, but you forgot to discuss important point in my previous message. I hope to know your explanation for non-existence of full service provider in Europe, especially U.K. although there are many cryonicists in it. The most famous journal in cryobiology (Cryobiology) is in U.K. I predicted some reason, but I am not sure (my reason: There is no cryonicist cryobiologist in U.K. to determine a protocol for cryoprotectants and trains the others without need to training in USA.). I think that any European cryobiologist can suggest some protocol for cryoprotectants because there is no common protocol for the American companies. What is your mind? About cloning: the cloning can help the nurosuspension. Also, for the whole body, perhaps, we cannot repair the whole body in the future for economical reasons and then we can repair only the brain or the head and use the cloning for the rest. If the cryonics will fail, I cannot accept the cloning as an alternative. If the cloning will be available, then it can be repeated for many times. There are many copies, but the origin is lost. At all, the cloning is not the subject. The Australian case gives the chance for the media to attack you, while you can get support of all European cryonicists far from case of the cryonics for a buried person. Not at all, there is a good side in problem of cryonics for the buried person: The relatives will not try to bury the person rapidly before arrival of cryonics team because they know that the team can take the body even after the burial. Ramzy _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16711