X-Message-Number: 16712 From: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:44:03 EDT Subject: Re: CryoNet #16675 - #16691 It's fairly far off topic, but Lee Corbin writes: << Russians, British, and Americans bombed Germany and occupied Europe very heavily, however I don't believe there was rational calculations to "killing civilians" over "hitting military targets." >> We did indeed purposely bomb civilian targets as part of the war effort, especially to damage the enemy factories and supply lines. There is no clear line of target demarcation, and there are no perfect innocents other than infants. Most enemy soldiers had no real choice (they were almost as innocent as the civilians), and most enemy civilians supported their war (they were almost as guilty as the soldiers). It's all quantitative and somewhat arbitrary. The main question, hardly ever truly addressed by the philosophers, is how to arrive at a scientific value system, and most of the traditional criteria are irrelevant. Only two things really matter--biology and math. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16712