X-Message-Number: 16746 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:31:51 -0400 From: fair4us <> Subject: Mike Darwin & The Vitamin Controversy In Cryonet 16714, Mike Darwin wrote: "I'd also caution people that taking supplements has very little comparable evidence that they work, and growing evidence that most don't -- or can even hurt you. I became very suspicious of Vitamin C about 10 years ago and cut it out of the cryonics protocols. Every ischemic animal that got ascorbate had markedly greater injury after ischemia -- usually not recovering any level of consciousness even with less than 10 minutes of insult time. Recently the Aerospace study on carotid artery intimal thickening in people supplementing with ascorbate, and the recent in vivo studies showing increased radical production and mutation seem to bear out our earlier experience. Perhaps if supplementation is more aggressive with other antioxidants this negative effect could be avoided. However, until this is demonstrated I'd hold C intake to no more than 250 mg/day/adult. It is just too potent a driver of the Fenton reaction and there is plenty of free iron to catalyze this nasty radical cascade." An interesting observation, in light of the Saul & Bill Vitamin Company's position, which is provided at the following: http://www.lef.org/featured-articles/may2000_vitamin_c_01.html Ah, but Mike doesn't work for them anymore, right? Regardless, who is the poor lay person to believe ... NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16746