X-Message-Number: 1677 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 00:33:19 +0100 From: (David Stodolsky) Subject: CRYONICS: re "Style or Content" MICHAEL RISKIN <> writes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As to content, I am often not in a position to judge the accuracy of the facts presented. Innuendo is usually spotted by most readers and easily rejected. What I can say about the content is that it is often presented in the same way lawyers present evidence at a trial. Our legal system is based on the adversarial concept ; prosecution does not present evidence to support the defense and v.v. As a result, the verdict does not always represent the truth but which side was the most persuasive. It is my ideal scenario that cryonicists would strive to present all evidence whether it supported their viewpoint or not, the same way real and honest and useful research is conducted. It seems that many cryonet contributors prefer to prove themselves right, as compared to searching for the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want truth, then the scientific method, including a journal is the only proven format. Operating a journal with an email list is potentially more powerful than using a paper format, but the software is not in place {Stodolsky, D. S. (1990). Consensus Journals: Invitational journals based upon peer consensus. Datalogiske Skrifter (Writings on Computer Science). No. 29 / 1990. Roskilde University Centre, Institute of Geography, Socioeconomic Analysis, and Computer Science. (ISSN 0109-9779-29) ([1990, Nov.19]. Psycoloquy, 1[15]. [Available by anonymous ftp from PRINCETON.EDU in directory /pub/harnad at Princeton, NJ: Princeton University, Dept. of Psychology.])} A straight email list does not even offer a good foundation for an adversarial proceeding, but lists could be set up for such a proceeding: Complaints could be submitted to a panel of "judges." A "trial" could be started by three judges, who felt an issue is worth processing. They could then issue invitations to an agreed upon random subset of cryonet authors. This leads to a list including the judges, jury, and involved parties. After the parties have concluded their debate and answered questions, a separate list for jury deliberation could be set up. The final conclusion would be submitted to the judges and then published on the net. Somebody with legal training could elaborate on the above, making it more suitable for specific types of proceedings. The first step would be establishing a "judges" list to which people could send their complaints. This type of proceeding would clear cryonet from the endless charges and replies that few can follow and that offer little of substantive value. I presume the "Alcor politics" archive already plays a similar role, but the release of some kind of conclusion to the net in general would be of value. David S. Stodolsky Tel: + 45 31 95 92 82 Department of Computer Science Fax: + 45 46 75 42 01 Bldg. 20.1, Roskilde University Internet: Post Box 260, DK-4000 Roskilde, Denmark or: Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1677