X-Message-Number: 1680 Date: 25 Jan 93 08:52:22 EST From: "Steven B. Harris" <> Subject: CRYONICS Az Bldg Fundraising Hist. An addendum to Dave Pizer's last note, for the sake of history: Dave says: >>Mike is confused about the time period that we were looking at the building (and showing it to our members), and the time period that we began to try to raise money to purchase it. We had the building properly secured during the time I helped with the fund raising. I have old copies of the signed agreement to sell (with the legal owner) in my possession.<< Comment: This seems to be the old memory hold operating. Or perhaps part of the confusion is that it is not clear to me when the "fund raising" period ostensibly began, as opposed to this "looking at and showing to members" period. I know from my journal that I personally first found out about the Scottsdale building when Dave Pizer telephoned me Sunday, March 22, 1992, and convinced me to fly out to Phoenix the following Wednesday, March 25. Which I did. Mike Darwin flew out to Phoenix at the same time for a tour, and has mentioned that trip in his posting. I was indeed shocked to discover for the first time, while standing in the Scottsdale building that day, that somebody else not known to Alcor was even then in escrow (I was told then that he had only two weeks or so to perform, after which Alcor could legally bid). However, I know very well that Dave lobbied wealthy Alcor members in some fashion before that escrow dead- line, because a week after my return (April 2) one of these members (a writer friend of mine) wanted to know my firsthand opinion of the building, saying that Dave had approached him in- formally him about money. Does this count as fund-raising? And when exactly was that one page flyer from Dave mailed out? Again, this kind of thing (as well as whatever "fund-raising" activities occurred at the Alcor banquet three days later on April 5) all happened before the building was indeed bought by the first bidder, who we had all been assured would NOT perform on his buy option. Now, as we all know, that first bidder did perform, and his subsequent galling offer to sell to Alcor immediately at a handsome turnaround profit to himself was (despite what you may hear) a pill too bitter for more than one people to swallow at the time. I'm sorry to put it this bluntly, but had Dave and others really done what he seems to be implying they did, and just shut up about the building until an offer had been formally tendered to Alcor by the legal owner, things might have been different, since nobody would then ever have known the phenomenal prior offering price that we had been "promised" by the Scotts- dale enthusiasts. As it was-- well-- capitalism in action at that close a distance can turn the stomach of even the staunchest libertarian. Now, I do not know when, during all of this, that poor Mr. Laughlin in particular started to get lobbied by whoever at Alcor. But I will hazard that if Laughlin was contacted before the first bidder performed, as I know for a fact that myself and many other Alcorians were (wealthy and not), and if he felt half as silly about the deal later as I did when it got bid up, I may understand one more reason about why he never went in. I myself ended up feeling a bit jerked around when all was said and done on this deal (somewhere there is a video clip of me standing in the building and saying something enthusiastic about it), and I only lost out a day's time and the cheap $100 round trip plane ticket from LA to Phoenix. Steve Harris Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1680