X-Message-Number: 1688
Date: 28 Jan 93 23:50:34 EST
From: Mike Darwin <>
Subject: CRYONET Phoenix Building Purchase


To: INTERNET:
Re: Phoenix Building Purchase
Date: 27 January, 1993

     In answer to Steve Harris' question about when the fundraising 
started: it started well before our trip to see the building because I 
first got details of the project when I received the flyer sent to all 
Alcor members in the mail.  That flyer came some days before our trip and 
I believe possibly as much as a week or so before.

     Dave now claims it was all on the up-and-up and that he was second in 
line to purchase the building.  Perhaps this is so.  However, *this is 
most definitely NOT what he told Steve Harris and I*.  Also, failure to 
disclose that the building was in escrow while trying to sell it to the 
Alcor membership borders on fraud and certainly doesn't constitute 
adequate disclosure in my book.

     Contrary to what Dave has stated on the net, the attorney member I 
mentioned previously had serious legal misgivings about the way the 
project was being pursued.  If Dave wants me to take the time to detail 
those misgivings I will do so -- however, I can think of better uses of 
time for both of us.

     Dave tries to twist my words and meaning when he implies that I said 
one thing on the videotape and another in my last posting regarding my 
feelings about the building.  I loved the building!  I am on record on 
both tape and in my postings as saying I thought the building was a great 
building.  And indeed it would have been, had it not already been sold at 
the time Dave was huckstering it.

     Dave is entitled to his opinion of the building in Riverside.  I 
think he will stand ALONE in his belief that it was not nearly the best we 
could have done at the time and under the circumstances.  In any event, 
compared to the hell-hole we were in in Fullerton it was a dream come 
true.

     As to his comments about zoning, coroners, city councils, etc.  It 
would help, as usual, if Dave had his facts right.  Zoning was 
investigated, the coroner's office was contacted, and a feature article on 
Alcor's move to Riverside was run in the RIVERSIDE PRESS ENTERPRISE nearly 
a year before Dora Kent.  Of course, during that interval we 
(unexpectedly) got a new coroner.  Dave should also be advised that there 
is nowhere in the Greater Los Angeles - Inland Empire area that has "hard" 
zoning.  All (and I do mean all) communities and counties in the Southern 
California area require special or conditional use permits for animal 
research.  Permits which are often difficult if not impossible to get.  
Alcor was not in a position to move elsewhere at that time either since it 
was critically dependant on Jerry Leaf and me.  Jerry wasn't moving and I 
wasn't about to either.

     As to Carlos' remark that the Symbex Offering was all boiler-plate 
stolen from elsewhere, he is wrong.  I prepared the Offering using a Taco 
Bell Limited Partnership Offering as an example.  Out of the 52 pages only 
about 4 are standard boiler-plate.  As might be imagined, Taco Bells and 
cryonics facilities have little in common.  The Taco Bell Offering served 
as an outline of topics to cover much like an instruction manual on a 
toaster can serve as guide for writing an instruction manual for a 
lawnmower.  I am very proud of that Offering and very thankful for the 
support I got in preparing it, including a great lease written by Fred and 
Linda Chamberlain and an enormous amount of formatting work by Hugh Hixon.

     However, having said all the above, if we were to take Carlos at his 
word then doing a proper prospectus for the Phoenix building should have 
been a piece of cake since Carlos and Dave had MY "stolen" boiler-plate.  
The truth is, it ain't that simple...and they know it.

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