X-Message-Number: 16938 From: Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:36:21 EDT Subject: A Hodge Podge Post (but no kitchen sink)... I heard this weekend that a good bit of research was done at UNC-Chaple Hill with fire flies and ATP several years ago. Separately, the recently deceased Dr. Bernard Strehler had much earlier uncovered the mechanism for their luminescent strobing (among various other significant lifetime research achievements). Apparently it is ATP activated along the way but that is all I have heard or read so far. However, I note that a major pathway for the formation of ATP in some bacteria and the chloroplasts of some plant cells is its indirect formation by a photochemically induced flow of electrons within certain cellular organelle membranes ("within" as opposed to "across" in this instance). I would imagine the flies' light show probably evolved from a genetically based accidental running of the system in reverse (a common evolutionary tactic with regarding preexisting pathways) such that photons become the end product this time around. Chapel Hill researchers (I happened to meet one of their past lab assistants this weekend) apparently used powdered ATP on the fly's "beacon matter" or its purified chemical or precursor and/or enzyme machinery (i.e., luciferin/luciferase). I bought some "ATP" (i.e., so labeled--however, could any such unstable molecule survive digestion intact?) at GNC, a nutrition and supplement franchise. I may try to figure out more conclusively before long if that white powder performs any better than crushed aspirin or talcum powder for inspiring more intense or more sustained showings (from the removed and sectioned rear part of the flies). However, I did set up the first round of a super simple experiment last night that I completed just now. So, to test your cryobiology acumen and/or intuition and/or luck, here is the question for you to ponder over the next few paragraphs, with the results/answer to be provided at the end of this multi-flavored semi-megapost: After rewarming from 22 hours in the kitchen freezer at -2.6 degrees F (-19.2 C) was my sole remaining but thoroughly flatline specimen's Lucifer-like lighting apparatus up for a few last lumens to go? No cheating. I read "Great Mambo Chicken & the Transhuman Condition" (not a new age poultry cookbook) by Ed Regis about a month ago. At least the first half of the book can be considered to be a must read by those on this forum. (Yes, it is readable in sections.) I very much recommend it if you have not read it yet. (I know most have.) Many of our favorite characters from this forum are quoted and/or partly chronicled in this 1990 work. Even a cryovillian or two, such as the infamous Robert Nelson, make an appearance. (Of course, we do have to give him some credit for getting Dr. Bedford started.) On the downside, I guess I was a little disturbed to verify that I had indeed inadvertently awarded away Dr. Feynman's Nobel Prize to Dr. Drexler in one of my very first post to Cryonet earlier this year. Ooops. While I am sure Feynman is hip to sharing, both Drexler and Merkle, and maybe even Pichugin, Darwin, Skrecky and one or more at 21st Century Medicine and others, would be happier with their very own. I noticed that Charles Platt has a new book out which was released a few weeks ago. It was so new that Amazon.com did not have any reviews up yet when I was there last. With an apparently unfindable currupt file on this Toshiba laptop I can only email for now and cannot recheck Amazon or order, but I have decided buy it soon. Don't wait on any review from me though. It will likely be several weeks before I get started and finished. Any comment about the book from Charles would be interesting to read. (Don't forget to get to Amazon via CI's web site to browse or buy.) Joseph W. Morgan, you asked about the cryogenic storage of heart valves. You may get several responces here and by email. I would guess everyone will be in substantial agreement. Here goes my best guess at present: I believe heart valves are largely "cell-free" and are predominenantly extra cellular formations (their constituent molecules/proteins are secreted and maintained by surrounding cells) perhaps like parts of tendons and ligaments may be. I believe I am telling you right, but will know for sure after a few more chapters of "Molecular Biology of the Cell" by Bruce Alberts, et al. (I am currently halfway through at page 700 where I started at the first of the year.) A guy I met recently (when I appraised his real estate) had such a valve transplant this year and is doing fine. I do not know why a cow's heart valve rather than a pig's was used--maybe that's the standard for these valves. By the way, I did not get the impression from him that rejection was considered to be a dire concern for this tissue type, which is consistent somehow. I do not know how that valve was preserved or not prior to implant/transplant. Two blurbs by Amanda Bower from the 7/9/2001 TIME Magazine (or go to www.time.com I believe)-- Quote: START SLOW--Warming up before exercise not only averts muscle injury but may also help prevent migraines. After 30 seconds of sudden, intense exercise, nitric oxide production--at high levels believed to trigger the crushing headaches--increased significantly in women prone to migraines, and more of them went on to develop one. Experts say warm-ups could help suffers get back to the gym. BEDTIME STORY--A good night's sleep can affect more than your beauty. New research finds that adults who sleep an average of five hours a night have a 40% lower insulin sensitivity than those tucked up for eight. The risk? When insulin can't do its job property, the body is more likely to develop diabetes and even to gain weight faster. Unquote Results of the experiment: After thawing for 15 minutes, I pressed into the dead fire fly's rear abdomen section with a pocket knife--And there was light! How did you do? Liquid Nitrogen trial in the next few days (too storming outside tonight for fire flies). Regards, David C. Johnson, Raleigh, NC Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=16938