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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:50:42 EDT
Subject: Re: CryoNet #16924 Simulation

From Lee Corbin:

> >I think we don't live in a simulation, not because it is not
> >possible but because we can't produce it now.
> 
> But the most common conjecture is that the simulation wasn't
> constructed "now", but in, say 20,000 A.D., and that we just
> don't know the right date.
  
I have advocated the idea of Black Magic: A quantum computer simulate a 
system and then project that simulation onto a material quantum system on a 
vacuum fluctuation. We may see such phenomena in the laboratory 10 to 20 
years from now. Well before AD 20 000 that technology would be able to 
project the full observable Universe as a simulation.

We are too few a part of that simulation to be its main purpose. You don't 
create 10^20 stars to watch GWB in the White House or anything else on Earth. 
In God I don't trust, and I don't think the Universe we see has been built by 
anyone, less by anyone with the objective to watch us. We are nothing and we 
have to learn this fact.

May be the Universe is a simulation, I like the idea of a self simulation. 
Degenerate quantum state, as found inside a neutron star may form 
spontaneously a simple very repetitive quantum computer. It seems indeed that 
the quantum domain may be reduced to two quantities: one finite number: zero 
and one undefined one, you can as well call it one or infinite or undefined.

If there was any thinking behind the simulation, the parameter choice would 
have been somewhat smarter. It seems we are in the dumbest possible world, a 
nearly proof that nobody is at the command level.

 Yvan Bozzonetti.

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