X-Message-Number: 1712 From: Ben Best <> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1993 19:00:00 -0500 Subject: canadian cryonics dinner The Canadian Cryonics Dinner of January 30 coincided with Toronto's worst snowstorm thus far this winter. Although a number of people were evidently prevented from attending, 9 hardy souls braved the elements to converge on the Korona Restaurant. With extropian "dynamic optimism", one person declared that he enjoyed the challenge of driving in the snow. It was evident that parking places were easy to find and the restaurant was not crowded. Dr. Malcolm Ramsay, our guest of honor (and a member of the Cryonics Society of Canada Scientific Advisory Board), was returning from a Polar Bear conference in Copenhagen, Denmark to Saskatchewan, via Toronto. Although Canada has about half of the world's polar bear population (12,000 out of 25,000), Dr. Ramsay is the only native Canadian polar bear scientist in Canada. The conference in Copenhagen had been attended by all of the practicing polar bear PhDs in the world (9 in all). Dr. Ramsay informed us that there are species of bats that hibernate at low temperature and have life-spans of 30 years. Bats are mammals, yet other mammals of the same size rarely live longer than two years. He sees no reason why this kind of low temperature hibernation couldn't be artificially induced in other mammals -- or even humans. And with the same order-of-magnitude increase in years of survival. Thus, a human being with ten years of life remaining could expect to remain alive for 150 to 200 years or so -- being awakened periodically to urinate, etc. We speculated on the type of person who might opt for this procedure, on the legal issues and on the comparative advantage or disadvantage as compared to cryonics. The conversation ranged through many other topics, most of which were related to cryonics or life extension. All in all, it was a consciousness-raising (meme-spreading) experience whch may reap future benefits beyond an enjoyable dinner. -- Ben Best (ben.best%) -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1712