X-Message-Number: 17213 From: "Mark Plus" <> Subject: Re: IQ versus common sense Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 19:06:27 -0700 In Message #17206, Doug Skrecky wrote, > I used to be a member of Mensa, an organisation where even the village >idiot has to have an IQ in the top 2% to join. People on welfare showed up >at meetings. People who were apparently mentally > ill showed up. One even >boasted about how crazy "it" was. In short > lots of people showed up who >could not add two plus two and reliably > get an answer of four. I am no >longer a member of Mensa. > > This experience forced me to make a clear distinction between IQ and > common sense. If the entire population suddenly acquired ten extra IQ > points, nothing much would change. If the entire population suddenly > >was gifted with 10 extra common sense points, our society would be > transformed overnight. > > Bums in the street would vanish, because begging is a harder way to > acquire funds, than working a job. Crime would plummet, because in > the >long run crime usually really doesn't pay. Strife at the office, > at >home, and at school would be reduced because it is pointless. The > >economy would boom, everybody would be happy, there would be no more > >wars, etc, etc. > > The business world knows this. An analog of common sense called > Emotional Quotient (EQ) has been found to be correlated with business > success, while IQ is not. In the real world nothing can substitute > for >good sound judgement. Unfortunately some people have it, while > others do >not. I have been thinking about this sort of thing lately while reflecting about my grandparents. They were basically decent people -- the sort who worked hard, obeyed the law, made their children behave, etc. But I could tell even as a child that they weren't all that successful in life, and it never occurred to me while growing up to go to one of them for advice about a personal problem. I understood on some level that they didn't know that much, despite all their life experience. I suspect the cultural belief about the "wisdom of the elders" is only partially true, a generalization that would have seemed more plausible in the past than today. In premodern situations, old people were genuinely scarce, hence their advice was more valued. Also, because the material and social environment changed slowly, if at all, whatever a person learned in youth would probably still be relevant in old age. This certainly would have been the case for primitive technical skills like farming, blacksmithing and similar activities. It was probably also true when it came to political or legal judgments. Today, however, we are surrounded by a much larger population of people living to advanced ages, and, frankly, I'm not impressed by what I'm seeing. I have to wonder if we can do better as a society than leaving the development of prudence and good judgment to whatever haphazard processes operating now. Failure to solve this problem will have literally life-or-death consequences if we succeed in attaining radical life extension, for I don't think it would be good to have a bunch of really old people with youthful physiologies running about if they remain prudentially retarded. Sincerely, Mark Plus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=17213