X-Message-Number: 17326
From: "john grigg" <>
Subject: removing the cargo cult science from cryonics
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:07:13 

Eugene Leitl gave me permission to share this.  I'm glad
to see he's not as demanding as I had assumed in regards to cryonics being 
taken seriously!

John

I wrote:
>Cryonics being a religion?  Is it simply because it takes "faith" in 
>scientific progress, due to the fact cryonics is not presently reversible?  
>Must it be reversible to get your full acceptance?

Eugene Leitl replied:
Oh no, that would be an unreasonably stringent requirement.

To remove the cargo cult from the cargo cult science in cryonics
you have to have decent quality control and peer review to guarantee 
consistency of suspensions, and of course you're very much required to 
document what is going on in people's frozen heads at the ultrastructural 
scale during, freezing or vitrification. Once you have that documented, one 
can start having a scientifically rigorous discussion how much bad or good 
news it makes to reconstructability of the undenatured structure, and going 
from that trying to reconstruct the operational dynamics of that given chunk 
of tissue.

For starters, peer review and consistent quality control comparable
to what is state of the art in the medical profession would do plenty.
(end)






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