X-Message-Number: 1735 Date: 11 Feb 93 01:56:02 EST From: David S Pizer <> Subject: CRYONICS Reply to: Charles Platt From: David Pizer Charles, I am sorry if my attempt to learn what happened in the CSNY matter has caused you anger and anxiety. I did not mean for that to happen. Charles, you have mentioned that you feel that I have no right to try to learn more about Saul Kent. However, I feel, that since the actions Saul takes may influence my life, I do have a right to learn more about him. You seem to want a "quiet net." I want the Truth. You seem to want life to feel rosy. I just want to keep on living. Charles, you keeping assuming that I am trying to embarass Saul. You give no evidence for this assumption. I have said, many times, that I want to know more about Saul because he has some influence over Alcor and therefore my life. This statement is self-evident. Charles, you show that you are angry at my asking questions and you have responded by writing derogatory fables, comparing me to McCarthy and other ugly name calling. You seem to feel its OK to insult me but it is not OK for me to just ask questions. Charles, you have already announced, in an earlier posting, that you are going to censor my postings from your recounts in "Cryonics" magazine. Now it appears, you want to censor me completely. I am sorry you feel this way. I would have thought you to be the type of person who would defend one's right to free inquiry; Not suppress it. Charles, you ignored the end of my posting to Saul where I offered to take this discussion private. And, you replied before Saul and I had a chance to move this discussion to a private forum. Please give us a chance. Charles you complain because I write in regular Cryonet instead of cryonet politics column. I am responding in this forum because that is where I believe most of the earlier postings, by others (including yourself), were. I am looking at the headings of several postings that I saved from others who posted political matters and all they say is "CRYONICS" they do not say "CRYONICS POLITICS" on my copies. I am assuming that they were posted in the regular "CRYONICS" column and not the "CRYONICS POLITICS" column. Now I admit that I am new to E-mail and Cryonet and perhaps I am in error. If that is so then I apologize. However, I have the following postings marked only "CRYONICS." 1. Angry posting of Feb 9th from Charles Platt with my copy marked "CRYONICS" 2. Insulting political posting of Jan 19, from Charles Platt entitled "Animal Circus" marked "CRYONICS." 3. Several political postings and political questions to me and others from Saul marked "CRYONICS" 4. Several political postings from various others marked "CRYONICS" 5. Lots of political postings from Mike Darwin including the one of Jan 28, where Mike asked me to answer the questions I just did. The copy I have, (the posting that you are so angry about), is marked "CRYONICS" not "CRYONICS POLITICS" therefore I answered it in "CRYONICS" Charles, you did not read the last part of my posting where I apoligized to Saul for the tone of my questions and asked him if he would like to move this to a private discussion, perhaps with Steve Bridge and Mike Perry helping, why not let him answer? If Saul does not answer and if no one else responds, I am willing to drop this matter. Charles, I am sorry if my desire to know more has caused you so much anxiety, please accept my apologies. Sincerely, Dave Pizer Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1735