X-Message-Number: 1742 Date: 13 Feb 93 02:41:05 EST From: MICHAEL RISKIN <> Subject: Cryonics: Saul/Dave NY Issue Yes Dave, it is prudent for any organization in as sensitive a position as Alcor is, to be hyper-cautious and alert for any risks including the credibility and character of any Alcor "Mover and Shaker". However, the very nature by which you are conducting your inquiries will itself create harm to Alcor. The operative phrase here is " innocent until proven guilty." You have connected an out of context loss of NY patients, with Sauls' simultaneous involvement and in effect asking that he prove himself innocent. Therein lies the logical impossibility of proving a negative(I did nothing wrong) , an old debaters ploy. What you are doing is simply poking around and innuendoizing to see what gets fleshed out. Lets' look at this another way. During the years 1988 to 1993, Alcor suffered significant operating deficits, that have accumulated, and by almost unanimous agreement has left us with a difficult planning problem. These were the years of the Mondragon administration. Now, Dave, you were of course a staunch supporter of the administration, a board member, and the treasurer (which many could say is equivalent to being the chief financial officer with great fiduciary responsibility to the membership.) So, Dave, with all due respect, and not to be taken personally or as any implied accusations, would you share with us your activities during that time frame and explain why you are not responsible for for our current deficits. It is a fair question, isnt it? We need to be sure that your continued activities and duties will not contribute to further deficits. There is also a rumor I am sure you would be anxious to dispel that your sole involvement, as treasurer, with routine Alcor financial matters, was to sign checks. In fact, anyone , in any future years, could ask you these same questions, in the same manner, expecting you to reply. I do not think that would be appropriate, do you? [ FYI: Dave has requested to be removed from Cryonet and Cryonet Politics, etc. and wanted me to let everyone know that since he will not be receiving new postings, please don't expect him to reply to your messages. - KQB ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=1742