X-Message-Number: 17533 From: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:00:56 EDT Subject: Platt, Visser, CryoCare Platt (#17521) writes in part to the effect that (a) my animosity toward him stems from my embarrassment over the Visser affair about 5 years ago, on which he has dwelt repeatedly in an effort to impugn my judgment in general, even when the topic under discussion had no relation; and (b) that his association with the rise and demise of CryoCare, on the other hand, was meritorious. Let's look at essentials of the record. First, CI's decision to enter into a contract with the Vissers was--at most--no more important than Alcor's. Actually, Alcor could be said to bear more of the responsibility, since the demonstration was on Alcor premises and almost all of the observers were Alcor people. I still don't think the decision was a bad one, based on what we thought we knew at the time--a large potential upside, no unbearable downside. In any case, Platt does his best to smear just me, not Steve Bridge or Hugh Hixon or Fred and Linda Chamberlain. (And Fred and Linda, and others in leadership postions at Alcor, continued to try to make additional deals with the Vissers in the months following, right up until the second, failed demonstration. I have the emails to prove it.) There's journalistic integrity for you--and that's part of the reason I believe Platt just plain invented the rosewater "anonymous" messages. Compared to my Visser culpability, Platt implies, his association with CryoCare was wise and fruitful. In fact, the CryoCare fiasco cost Alcor and cryonics much, much more than the Visser episode. CryoCare (although itself nonprofit) pulled a lot of people out of Alcor and made a decision to use primarily for-profit service providers, starting (and ending) with BioPreservation and CryoSpan for initial care and storage respectively. It should have been obvious that the market couldn't support them, any more than it had TransTime. There were also other problems with both companies, obvious going in, including Mike Darwin's self-admitted health problems and lack of reliable availability. Now BioPreservation and CryoSpan are both effectively defunct, along with CryoCare. Some of the CryoCare people have gone back to Alcor, and a few have gone to CI, while others have just dropped outof cryonics. Talk about self-inflicted wounds! Certainly Cryonet bickering is a tempest in a teapot, and scarcely matters in the big picture, and some will say that, if Lemler won't muzzle Platt, I should just ignore him. I certainly have better things to do than detail his malefactions. But turning the other cheek isn't my style, and I don't have a blood pressure problem. On another subject, it occurs to me that some readers may be moved to donate money toward the victims of the recent terrorism rather than the James Swayze fund. With all due respect, I suggest that we keep things in perspective. Robert Ettinger Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=17533