X-Message-Number: 17635 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:06:00 -0400 From: James Swayze <> Subject: R E S P E C T References: <> David Pascal wrote: "I thank Mr. Darwin for graciously and properly pointing out that saying a thing is not necessarily the same thing as doing it. (If it were, the verbal exchanges on Cryonet would be a sea of dead bodies.)" I've been mulling over something I'd like to say about certain comments made here and the public treatment of others for days now. It's time to speak up. When one becomes disabled to the degree I am, if one is observant, one learns a lot about human nature and especially if one is male one learns a lot about how males interact with each other. I've often said that I get along with women better than I do with men. The following will help to understand why. When strange to each other men pass in a hallway there is often a very subtle and very brief exchange of a very great amount of information. It's done in a quick glance and often accompanied by a nod of recognition. It's very primal. It hearkens back to more unsure and barbaric times. In that glance and nod the two men assess the other's threat potential, status, wealth, health, likelihood of having females and perhaps an estimate of how many. In that exchange we men try to assess if the other will be friend or foe, compete with us successfully for females, potentially do us physical or fiscal harm and a host of other things. We can tell if the other is brave or likely to be or likely to be cowardly. It's all in the eyes. I feel it's probably to do with how quickly the other meets one's gaze and how long it's held and maybe some other subtleties but it's still all in the eyes. Not tooting my own horn but when I was walking I had some considerable threat potential. I was tall, strong, not bad looking, considered intelligent, outgoing and martial arts trained. I never went looking for trouble but it often found me and I can honestly say it never bested me. So now when strange men do the assessment thing with me they get a mixed signal. My eyes still show the threat but my body can't really back it up. I feel it gets in the way sometimes and has even caused outright aversion and even violence on more than one occasion. I don't try to put off the threat signal because I am a likable guy but one can't really control this. One is either strong willed or not and it shows through. So what's this have to do with comments to each other on Cryonet? Well since I'm able to recognize this behavior I can also recognize another. It's an unwritten law men observe. Let me clarify this. It's an unwritten law men observe _in the presence of_ one another. Predators in the natural world tend to leave each other alone. Each knows an injury is costly and even a small one life threatening to a creature that must constantly hunt others for sustenance. We are predators still despite our civilization and societal mores. The same law applies. So men in the presence of one another tend to be respectful of the other to minimize the potential of violence. Each knows the other's threat potential which often might be equal but even if not a non equal can do serious damage. So in person we are more polite. Get where I'm going with this now? If you wouldn't say it with the RESPECT you would observe in person then is it right to still say it just because distance and anonymity makes it safer? I tell you what, if things were said to me in person that are said to some on here, I'd bitch slap you wheelchair or not! Any further disrespectful comments made in this safety zone I will consider simply cowardice. James -- From the point of ignition To the final drive The point of the journey is not to arrive --RUSH Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=17635