X-Message-Number: 17720 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 13:15:55 -0400 From: Keith Henson <> Subject: Re: Idiocy and Lyndon LaRouche In #17711 Mike Perry wrote: snip >I was not familiar with Lyndon LaRouche before looking into some postings >about "Classical Humanism" (including the recent one on this forum linking >anti-abortion sentiments with preserving cryonic suspendees). I have now >searched on the web and seen a lot of pro-LaRouche material, plus anti-LR >material filtered through pro-LR sources such as *Executive Intelligence >Review*. Looking further, I did find one lengthy anti-LR piece, at >http://www.anti-fascism.org/cult7a-2.html. Overall, I gather that LR is >(now) anti-Semitic and homophobic, and leans to the "far right." He has >been convicted in court of mismanaging funds in his political organization, >which has a following in the thousands, with some "defectors" who offer an >alternative viewpoint of his operations. There seems to be a strong element >of opportunism in his stances on things, which have shifted around over the >years and seem "adaptive." In all, he strikes me as someone to take >seriously, that is, not as just a harmless crank--and to be wary of. > >Mike Perry I have not tracked what Lyndon has been up to for some years, but I believe his supporters number under a thousand. Still, Mike is right, you have to take cults/cult leaders seriously. His was the first cult I tangled with--using humor per the attached article to good effect. After it was published a few L-5 Chapters found they had been infiltrated with LaRouche cult members--a cause for laughter. Not long after these events in 1984, Lyndon was convicted of credit card fraud (the way he financed his "campaign" broadcasts) and spent a few years in jail. His followers, estimated at about 1200, dropped to about half of that and never recovered. Fortunately there were not enough people susceptible to this particular intense political cult meme set to be a large social problem--though they cause trouble to this day for Henry Kissinger whenever they can. Lyndon would be 78 or 79 by now. This article caused the L-5 Editor of the time to go into hiding for weeks, fearing reprisal. There was a great cartoon illustrating the article of marching L-5 Storm Troopers and their phallic symbol space shuttle. Notes in [] were added in 1997. Keith Henson The LaRouchians are coming! or Know Thy (Self-Appointed) Enemy by H. T Watcher [L5 News, Aug. 1984] Whew, after listening to a nationally-aired (CBS), half-hour paid political harangue by Lyndon LaRouche I'm not sure I want to be associated with this "L-5 Society." For one thing, "brainwashing" new members with transcendental meditation sounds like far too much work to me. For another, I don't know what to tell members who ask where they should collect their share of the "psycho-sexual" gratification we are sup- posed to be providing. In case this makes no sense to you, LaRouche's followers are the folks you see blocking traffic in airports. They are the ones with the Fusion magazines, not the shaved heads and yellow robes. LaRouchians promote nuclear plants, fusion energy, and beam weapons--though they don't seem to know the difference between particle beam weapons and X-ray lasers. Besides promoting unpopular or very difficult technologies, they have a long list of "devils," both people and organizations. Jane Fonda, Henry Kissinger and British Intelligence are near the top of a list. Some time ago they added the L-5 Society, and recently General Graham and his High Frontier organization. Who is this Larouche character? And what does he have against all these people and organizations? The following is from the March 30 [1984?] issue of the anti-terrorist Information Digest published by John Rees: "Lyndon Hermyle LaRouche, 62, is the self-appointed and unchallenged leader of the National Democratic Policy Committee (NDPC), which calls itself 'one of the largest paid- membership political action commit- tees in the United States.' The NDPC is the successor organization to the U.S. Labor Party (USLP), that for many years was the main political arm of LaRouche's National Caucus of Labor Committees (NCLC) which emerged in 1968 under his aegis from a fraction of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). With th 1980 presidential candidacy of LaRouche as a Democratic Party candidate, the USLP evaporated to be supplanted by the NDPC. "Now in 1984, the LaRouche organ- ization's NDPC is part of a web of related groups and publications, internationally active and circulated, that exist to propagate the shrill, extremist and often anti-Semitic views of their leader. "Since 1972, obedience to the NCLC leader has included carrying out not only violent verbal and propaganda attacks on individuals and members of the groups LaRouche decided were his enemies, but physical violence as well. The pattern estab- lished is as follows: First a series of vitriolic and obscene attacks were unleashed in the LaRouche publica- tions. There followed personal harass- ment in the form of midnight tele phone calls, personal and photographic surveillance of the target on the streets and at their places of work and homes, telephone calls to friends and family members, picket lines at home and work, vexatious lawsuits and vandalism, which often culminated in violence to the victim. These actions, LaRouche said recentl in an interview, are not harassment, but merely "confrontation in the American tradition." Larouche, according to Information Digest, is an old-time communist, though he got into violent squabbles with the U.S. Communist Party, and finally declared he had wiped it out. In 1974, LaRouche's stated goal was to gain world power by the year 2000. He ran for president in 1976 on the U.S. Labor Party ticket, picking up 40,043 votes out of 80 million. Next time around (1980) he ran as a Democrat! LaRouche, as you might suspect, is not affiliated with the Democratic Party, whose National Chairman, Charle Manatt, has condemned "the activities of this fanatical cult, which . . . practices various forms of intimidation, including character attacks and harassment of the news media." This year, he tried again, getting on the Democratic primary ballot in about a quarter of the states. After getting nowhere with the regular political process (not unexpected), he made an appeal to the Democratic convention delegates to switch their votes to him as the "savior" of the country. "Savior" from what? Why, he is going to save the US from the L-5 Society and General Graham's High Frontier. Understand that he is in favor of ballistic missile defense (BMD), he just insists that the only way to do it is with particle beam weapons, and anyone who might have any other opinion must be a Nazi or under the control of the KGB. Sounds like some kind of bizarre joke? Maybe so, but they spent $800,000, or more than twice the entire annual budget of the L-5 Society, for television time. Most people couldn't stand the program and turned it off or complained to the local station, but there are sure to be a few people out in television land whose only knowledge of the L-5 Society is from this source. Why did the L-5 Society become a target of this bunch of (perhaps dangerous) nuts? After all, most L-5 members support fusion energy research (even if it never gets used on Earth, it makes a hell of a space drive). It may have been L-5 support of Solar Power Satellites, which were condemned in LaRouche publications around 1976-77, but it is really hard to tell what goes on in these peoples' minds. In October 1979 they attacked L-5 Founders Keith Henson and Carolyn Meinel in an book review published in their magazine, Fusion. The review started with an attack on Mind and Matter by Gregory Bateson. The late Bateson was British and LaRouche hates everything British for some reason. After "linking" Bateson and Aldous Huxley to "Mk Ultra," purported to "test the effects of LSD on American Youth," the reviewer (correctly) linked Bateson to Stewart Brand, whose Point Foundation publishes The CoEvolu- tion Quarterly and Whole Earth Catalog. (This wasn't too hard since articles by and about Bateson were often in the CoEq.) The tenuous chain of connections led on to the L-5 Society because the Point Foundation had funded the first Princeton conference on Space Colonization! The L-5 Founders were characterized as "LSD enthusiasts . . . (with) their dream of VOAG--Violent Overthrow of All Govern- ments." Timothy Leary was "another principal in L-5," and Gerard K. O'Neill wa a "so-called legitimate scientist from Prin- ceton University." The review went on to attack Pulitzer- prize-winning Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter, "a computer expert in artificial intelligence..nasty discipline as its use in brainwashing implies." Marvin Minsky and Noam Chomski got tarred with the same brush. It finished up by hacking Gary Zukav for The Dancing Wu Li Masters, with side swipes at Neils Bohr and references to M. C. Escher as "the psychotic Dutch draftsman. When Henson was asked about this vituperation, he remarked, "I have never been so flattered. It isn't every day one gets run down with some of the principal intellectual luminaries of the century." Larouche's organization seems to be made up of people who get their rocks off by dreaming up paranoid conspiracy theories and acting as if they are real. There are enough of these folks, it seems, to support a million-dollar political campaign. There would be more reason to worry about them, after all, Hitler started with less, but this kind of craziness (at least in its present form) is not likely to outlive Larouche, who is 62 and not in particularly good health. Still, since LaRouche has appointed himself and his organizations as our enemies, we should know something about them, and what they are saying about us. The former is grim/funny but the latter is worth reading for the laughs. Imagine the L-5 Society being able to fool most of the engineers in the country. They rate us as amazingly danger- ous, moaning about "L-5's sophisticated pitch to the science-fiction readership." LaRouche organizations have a history of infiltrating and disrupting other organiza- tions, but we do so much internal disrupting on our own that it might be hard for outsiders to be noticed. We should, I suppose, be alert to these people. This shouldn't be too hard. Their near total lack of humor makes them easy to spot. Make up a screwy ritual like bowing to a Space Shuttle model, or making the sacred "O" gesture while facing toward Princeton and see who takes it seriously. Or tell one you admire Henry Kissinger and see how they react. LaRouchians are fanatically against all types of recreational drugs (except the legal ones) and believe the Queen of England is behind most of the dope trade since the opium wars of the last century. This may give you some ideas on how to test a suspected "mole," but I don't want to hear about them. L-5 members interested in little cloak-and-dagger work might report local LaRouche activities directly to John Rees at 2805 St. Paul St., Baltimore, MD 21216. John has graciously given L5 [I have no idea if this address is good 13 years later in 1997. I could not find anything related in a web search. HKH] permission to copy and distribute the 44 page Information Digest report quoted this article. A transcript of the broadcast and the report are available from L-5 headquar- ters for $5.00 to cover copying and first class postage. I recommend every chapter get one and pass it around. The L-5 Lending Library has a tape the LaRouche broadcast. Some of the stuff in it, such as linking L-5 to the zero-growth theses, is incredibly funny. Other parts, such as likening us to the cults of Apollo and Dionysos, sound like fun. Some references are completely mysterious. Does anyone know what the Lifespring organization does or where it is located? [Later found out that Lifespring was one of the EST knockoffs. HKH (and EST was a spin off of Scientology--hkh 2001)] Contact National Headquarters about borrowing the tape for L-5 parties. It will be available if we can obtain permission to loan it out from the LaRouche organization. [I don't remember if LaRouche's outfit gave permission or not. We did play the tape (to much laughter) for years. HKH] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=17720