X-Message-Number: 17797
From: "john grigg" <>
Subject: verifying biostasis quality, and facility security
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:39:15 

Charles Platt wrote:
Of course animal experiments are valuable, and I hope Pichugin's work will 
be productive. But so long as we have no way of verifying the condition of 
our human patients, cryonics procedures themselves are not "research" in the 
usual sense.
(end)

I realize the human brain is the most complex of all mammalian brains, but 
wouldn't a dog brain be good enough for testing?  Couldn't we learn the 
pertinent factors of biostasis damage from it?  Or would we have to use a 
chimp to come close to an accurate test?  Has a chimp ever been used in this 
way?

Has a dog brain even ever been given the FULL suspension treatment(ALCOR and 
CI) before being examined carefully?  I had always believed so.  I look 
forward to tests being done to verify the effectiveness of the new ALCOR 
vitrification methods.

Using animals(especially dogs) in biostasis effectiveness testing could 
really tick off certain radical groups.  That is the primary reason I 
believe security needs to be tight at cryonics facilities(as if there is the 
money for REALLY effective security).  Domestic religious groups, and 
middle-eastern terrorists are probably much less of a threat to cryonics at 
present.

best wishes,

John

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