X-Message-Number: 17921
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:47:34 -0500
From: Keith Henson <>
Subject: Re: Intelligence is not the same as consciousness [Dave

Dave Shipman wrote:


>         My main beef is failing to distinguish between intelligence and
>consciousness. Yes, we will build intelligent machines, with human-like
>behaviors, and they will pass the Turing Test. But will they be conscious?
>That is a completely separate question.
>         Consciousness has to do with what your experiences "feel like". 
> What does
>a banana smell like? Close your eyes and think about it, or better, go peel


Here, http://www.media.mit.edu/people/minsky/ there are links,

  The Emotion Machine (draft) ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 )

Marvin Minsky is not only one of the foremost thinkers in this area, but 
one of the most famous Alcor members.  I suggest you quote what you wish of 
his material here with your comments and that you cc the comments back to him.

Keith Henson

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