X-Message-Number: 18119 From: "George Smith" <> References: <> Subject: Look in the horse's mouth. Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:29:12 -0800 I was unable to reply sooner due to having to remove a clever and invisible virus from my computer network. Curious these viruses. Until we know how to identify them, all we are aware of is their side effects, which are commonly perceived as erratic irregularities in what "should" be going on. Reminds me of "Kirlian" photography, for example. Regarding the "phantom leaf" phenomena (wherein if a tree leaf is torn in half and placed in a NEW location on a plate to take a "Kirlian" photograph, the shape of a complete leaf is purported to reveal itself "RARELY" but TRULY) I repeat my question to the readers of this forum: Have any of you tried it yourself? I also felt I should mention that not all phenomena will be repeated in what seem to be identical circumstances. The key issue is what criteria are required to produce a phenomena. (For example, you may call me to dinner but if no food is served I will probably not exhibit the phenomena of eating). To check on this I once asked a radiologist if all x-rays will reveal a spiral fracture of the tibia, for example. I was informed that to be able to confirm almost any diagnosis, it is not uncommon to take more than one x-ray series, especially if nothing is seen in the first series. Just perhaps the "phantom leaf' phenomena requires certain criteria to be present to better insure it will be "caught." But again, it is that problem of that damned white crow which demonstrates that all crows are not black. It only takes ONE to destroy the learned and hubris bound opinions of millions of "scientism-ists." But then if a debunker tells us that there are no white crows, who are we to dare to think otherwise? Shouldn't we simply accept the word of all authorities? Was it Aristotle who recommended that if you wanted to know how many teeth were in a horse's mouth you could choose between reading the opinions of others or simply look in the horse's mouth for yourself? Seems to me that that is what a true SCIENTIST should do. Look in the mouth and see what's there. Just my opinion, George Smith CI member and White Crow Spotter Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18119