X-Message-Number: 18122 Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 16:58:05 +1030 From: William Henderson <> Subject: Refrase I thought I'd better rephrase that last message. You would have a field day with the word 'subjective': "a ha, He's admitting its all subjective not objectively real". But this is precisely why telepathy is difficult to fit into the vailidability of science, because it involves something going on inside person's mind and another's mind mixed in with the psychological and emotional and self-consciousness of each individual. I doubt that it will ever be proved to satisfy science. But perhaps in the future, when humanity is freed from work, and the education (the structure of thinking) that trains us to be useful in work, and people are free to expand their mind for its own sake, the proof may come through each individual's experience of telepathy. I'm willing to leave it at that, but if you want the last word, be my guest. William. RE James: I'd bet CSICOP wishes they got a dollar for every time they've heard that last part. Pressure doesn't kill the ability to smash atoms and get a consistent result, or to perform a quantum physics experiment or many more tests that can be named. Repeatability is a must, pressure or no. Atoms are not self conscious human beings. William Henderson "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid." -Q, Star let me refraseTrek:TNG episode 'Q Who' Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18122