X-Message-Number: 18169
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 16:41:06 -0500
From: david pizer <>
Subject: Will Alcor every move?  If it ain't broke, don't move it.

Some answers to Joe Morris From Dave Pizer

Although I am no longer in Alcor management, as this post was addressed to,
I would like to throw out some thoughts for possible consideration.

>I am an Alcor member, and would like to retire to AZ
>in order to better my chances for a good
>cryopreservation.

In my opinion, based on a long association with cryonics, I have observed
that an Alcor member's chances of getting a better preparation for
suspension are increased if he/she deanimates close to Alcor.  I think you
would be wise to be close to Alcor, all other things being equal.

>Specifically, what is Alcor's position on standby fees
>for people living in Arizona? For people living in
>Phoenix? For people living in Phoenix metro? What is
>considered Phoenix metro?  Is Payson/Gisela/Prescott
>Valley considered Phoenix metro area?  HOw would the
>added distance of these towns up on the Mogollon Rim
>(Prescott, etc.) affect standby quality?

At present I am constructing a conference center/resort in Mayer Arizona
about 1/2 hour before Prescott and 1 hour north of Phoenix.  Along with
other types of conferences, seminars and get-togethers, we hope to have
lots of life extension and cryonics information events.

If all goes well, I also hope to construct a retirement community near the
resort soon afterwards.  The advantage of being close to Alcor and yet out
of the busy metropolitan area of Phoenix seem great.  Also, there is the
advantage of living with other like-minded life-extension folks who can
help out in a sudden death.  Growing older among non-cryonics people does
not seem as safe as growing old among your cryonics friends.  (If you don't
have many now, you will after you arrive in Arizona.)

>Furthermore, I was glad Alcor moved to Phoenix, but
>upon studying the issue more closely, Arizona may not
>be that great an area--it is relatively expensive, the
>summer climate appears to be brutal, and also large
>metro areas may be subject to terrorism in years to
>come. I would suggest moving to rural North Carolina,
>Tennessee, South Carolina, or even the Rust Belt, as
>these are very cheap areas, and they are not likely to
>run out of water in years to come, as may very well
>happen to Phoenix. 

Phoenix may not be as cheap to live in as some of the areas you mention,
but it is still a lot less then most of the large cities. Phoenix, I think,
is the sixth largest city in the US?  Arizona is retirement friendly.  A
large part of our population are retired folks from all over the world.
There are many facilities here that specialize in serving the retirement
segment. There are also two world class Mayo facilities here, Mayo clinic
and Mayo hospital.

The weather here, especially in Mayer, is always nice.  There is less
chance of a natural disaster.

But most important, the political climate for cryonics, at present, is very
good.  Alcor moved out of California to get away from endless, and
increasing, government attacks on it that would have bankrupted Alcor with
attorney fees.  Everytime we won one battle with a government agency, it
seemed like another agency attacked us.

>What are the chances of Alcor moving in the next
>decade?

My educated guess would be very slim to none, unless some billionare built
Alcor a palace somewhere else and then gave Alcor a large sum of money to
move into it.

>Thanks for your time. Also, thanks for the weekly
>updates, as they are a great imnprovement.  You guys
>seem to be doing a great job.

Add my thanks to Joe's for these updates.  You new guys really do seem to
be doing a great job.

Dave

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