X-Message-Number: 18349 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:19:49 -0800 From: "John Grigg" <> Subject: Good things do happen! James Swayze wrote: I began to ponder ways to get everyone together and to bring peace to cryonet. I even discussed some things with a few folks. Now I would never be so presumptuous so self aggrandizing to say I planned this possible outcome. I'm as surprised as anyone else but I can't help noticing that possibly this outcome and the recent exchange between Dr. Lemler and Prof. Ettinger just might be small steps toward this peace. How say you all? (end) I think it's absolutely fantastic that Dr. Lemler and Prof. Ettinger are publicly on good terms with each other! I recently read the new version of the Alcor introductory book and was really touched to see the many quotes and references credited to Prof. Ettinger by Dr. Lemler, the author of the text! These two men both acknowledge they have differences, but see the importance of working together to further cryonics as a whole. I remember hearing Fred and Linda Chamberlain were on good terms with Prof. Ettinger, and that it was actually certain members on each side who instigated the supposed unfriendliness between CI and Alcor. So, I hope we can follow the good examples given. Of course, this does not mean we will not continue the tradition of having pointed discussions on what are the best means to improve things. Regarding other good things happening, my congratulations to Peter Christiansen for benefitting from Rudi Hoffman's life insurance expertise! I wish a belated Happy Bedford Day to everyone on the list. best wishes, John Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18349