X-Message-Number: 18745
From: "Solion" <>
Subject: Re: Cooling and Coroners
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:44:21 -0800

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((You cannot touch a patient (literally) let alone put a cooling helmet on him 
if he is a Coroner's or ME's case until you obtain permission. Permission is 
virtually never granted. In my many years of involvement in cryonics and 
medicine I have had only one exception to this; a gentleman in a small town 
with a known history of heart disease who was expected to die at any time and 
who was a known cryonicist. Over the Coroner's deputies objections his 
teenage son packed his father's head in ice. They chose not to intervene and 
later allowed the local cryonics people to pack the patient's entire body in 
ice once the physician had been contacted and agreed to sign the death 
certificate.))

Okay , This sounds damn frightening . How often does this happen? 
and what is being done about it? Has any group worked towards a list 
of ME's that are cryonic friendly?

From your description it sounds like it is a compleat crapshoot as to if 

we can be suspended in any reasonable time. and that we might as well forget it.

You know as well as anyone that the odds of being recoverd in such as situation 
as 
described is probly on the "impossible" side of things. 


So  what are we to do? . If we can get an ME's approval . then the Cooling 
helmet 

(aka VPS ) will be a simple resolution to the problem. If not? You are saying 
that 

I and everyone else will rot. SO  again . is there anything I or anyone can do? 
Or 
are well all just doomed.  Hell at this point I am thinking bribery


I think everyone should take a moment and think about what can be done. 
Personally 

come monday I will be making a few phone calls to find out what the Coroner or 
local 

ME's position is on cryonics. Perhaps I will find one that is positive about it 
in one of the local 

countys. Perhaps I can find a hospital in said county that I can be transferred 
to. 


At this point I just don't know. I am going to make an appointment to speak with
a 

lawyer about this and find out what GA law is on this subject. I will keep 
people 
informed and let you all know what I find out

Lionel   

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