X-Message-Number: 18796 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:52:30 -0800 From: "John Grigg" <> Subject: Trying to understand Trygve... Trygve wrote: I know some people on this list will probably claim that by suggesting that cryonics be placed in bomb shelters, I will be giving cryonics a bad name and that this is another of Trygve's follies etc. etc. (end) Trygve, it is a very good idea whose time has come! And I am very impressed by your construction knowledge in this area. What line of work are you/were you in? "Trygve's follies" is a term which bothers me. I just wish you could better understand somehow why others sometimes perceive you harshly. you continue: Be my guest, I couldn't care less about what such nay sayers say or do, my experience is that they do not get much accomplished. (end) It's good to consider what critics/friends have to say in an objective way, but not to let their words crush your spirit. I admit I don't see Saul Kent or David Pizer commenting about you! I would be very interested to know what they think. What is the latest on your cryonics organization in Norway? Any headway there? you continue: By the way the Colorado legislature just voted down with a vote of 35 to 27, a bill to declare March the 9th "Frozen Dead Guy day" (end) Whew, that was a close one!! you continue: As to the ignorant fellow who so sarcastically said: "P.S. Hey Trygve, what's wrong with using Alcor or CI to keep your grandfather nice and cold??" I honestly did not know the backstory on the matter, but I do now. And I do truly apologize for the sarcastic tone. I meant no disrespect to your grandfather. Since CI would at present take your grandfather, would you ever consider putting him into their care? I would think the CI option would be cheaper and also safer for you. you continue: If that fellow had been old enough he would have remembered that C.I. did not accept post mortem sign ups. in 1990 I actually sent USD 31.000 to C.I. and asked them to accept my grand father. They returned the money and I had to place him elsewhere. Afterwords I talked them into accepting post mortem sign ups, And they have done so since. (end) Yes, that was before my time(where cryonics is concerned in my life, anyway)! I really wish CI had not turned you down. It would have prevented all the bad publicity which came later with your grandfather being held in Colorado under makeshift conditions. you continue: If I had been in Colorado I would have offered to take in the Martinots. How come none of the other cryonics organizations is offering to do this? You could possibly get the use of a castle in France as a vacation retreat in return? (end) Are you kidding about the last part?? Anyway, I do wonder why CI or Alcor don't go to the aid of the Martinots. It would make for great publicity considering how the world seems to be rooting for the frozen couple. best wishes, John 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18796