X-Message-Number: 18796
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:52:30 -0800
From: "John Grigg" <>
Subject: Trying to understand Trygve...

Trygve wrote:
I know some people on this list will probably claim that by suggesting 
that cryonics be placed in bomb shelters, I will be giving cryonics 
a bad name and that this is another of Trygve's follies etc. etc.
(end)


Trygve, it is a very good idea whose time has come!  And I am very impressed by 
your construction knowledge in this area.  What line of work are you/were you 
in?  


"Trygve's follies" is a term which bothers me.  I just wish you could better 
understand somehow why others sometimes perceive you harshly.

you continue:
Be my guest, I couldn't care less about what such nay sayers say 
or do, my experience is that they do not get much accomplished.
(end)


It's good to consider what critics/friends have to say in an objective way, but 
not to let their words crush your spirit.  I admit I don't see Saul Kent or 
David Pizer commenting about you!  I would be very interested to know what they 
think.   


What is the latest on your cryonics organization in Norway?  Any headway there?

you continue:
By the way the Colorado legislature just voted down with a vote 
of 35 to 27, a bill to declare March the 9th "Frozen Dead Guy day"  
(end)

Whew, that was a close one!!

you continue:
As to the ignorant fellow who so sarcastically said:

"P.S. Hey Trygve, what's wrong with using Alcor or CI to keep your grandfather 
nice and cold??"


I honestly did not know the backstory on the matter, but I do now.  And I do 
truly apologize for the sarcastic tone.  I meant no disrespect to your 
grandfather.


Since CI would at present take your grandfather, would you ever consider putting
him into their care?  I would think the CI option would be cheaper and also 
safer for you.     

you continue:
If that fellow had been old enough he would have remembered that 
C.I. did not accept post mortem sign ups.
in 1990 I actually sent USD 31.000 to C.I. and asked them to accept 
my grand father. They returned the money and I had to place him 
elsewhere. Afterwords I talked them into accepting post mortem sign 
ups, And they have done so since.
(end)


Yes, that was before my time(where cryonics is concerned in my life, anyway)!  I
really wish CI had not turned you down.  It would have prevented all the bad 
publicity which came later with your grandfather being held in Colorado under 
makeshift conditions.            

you continue:
If I had been in Colorado I would have offered to take in the Martinots. 
How come none of the other cryonics organizations is offering to 

do this? You could possibly get the use of a castle in France as a vacation 
retreat in return?
(end)


Are you kidding about the last part??  Anyway, I do wonder why CI or Alcor don't
go to the aid of the Martinots.  It would make for great publicity considering 
how the world seems to be rooting for the frozen couple. 

best wishes,

John


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