X-Message-Number: 18913
From: "John de Rivaz" <>
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Subject: Re: In Ictu Oculi
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:35 +0100

> Message #18908
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>>
 There is a wonderful painting I ran across in the Church and Hospital de
la  Caridad in Madrid by the Spanish baroque artist Juan De Loyal Valdes. It
is  entitled In Ictu Oculi (In the Blink of an Eye) and was painted in 1671.
As  far as I know it is virtually unknown in the "popular" world of Western
art  (i.e., outside academic circles); I've never seen it in any books of
art
history or paintings.
<<

See it on the web:

http://www.artehistoria.com/historia/obras/10662.htm

I agree that if you consider any single, **specified** individual, the
chances of him or her being cryopreserved and reanimated are much lower than
the chances that an unspecified individual is cryopreserved in the late 20th
or early 21st century and is reanimated. Indeed the chances that the money
making industries of law and so on will thwart the process are high enough
before one starts to consider practicalities such as whether the person is
found in time, or whether they are cremated in a travel accident resulting
in fire and so on.

The odds of all this providing a problem for a specific individual do not
feature at all in any estimation as to whether any **unspecified**
individual gets cryopreserved. We know that the chances of this happening
are exactly 100%, because it has been observed already to *have happened*.

There are chances that those already cryopreserved will be destroyed by
people with a money or personal career aggrandisement motive, as is being
attempted right now in France. There are chances that some disaster will
overcome those concentrations of cryopreserved people in the USA in the
future.

All of this stands before the physical problems of undoing cryopreservation
damage and reversing ageing and the cause of death, enormous problems in
themselves.

So yes, none of us can bask in a "sure and certain knowledge" of a life
after cryopreservation.

But with the alternative being so much worse, it is still worth signing up
and hoping for the best.

--
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