X-Message-Number: 18958 From: "George Smith" <> References: <> Subject: Wisdom from the last century. Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:16:06 -0700 Gentlemen, Heart failure is death. It is now and always shall be. I read these preposterous suggestions from some who dare call themselves "physician" that someday we shall through some unknown and magical means be able to cause the human heart to beat again. I also hear of some young and naive medical students attaching electrical generating machines to the hearts of primitive creatures, such as frogs, and believing that because they can create chaotic convulsions in animal tissue that somehow we will be able to restore normal heart function after coronary morbidity in some impossible future. Nonsense! What would these young fools have us believe? That we will attach wires to the human heart and then have the patient attached to a mechanical machine like a motorcar? This is the rubbish fantasy of novelists like Mr. Wells or Mssr. Verne. (Uneasy laughter ripples through the hall). I have here a list of patients I have personally signed the death certificates for in the last forty years of my active professional life as both surgeon and medical instructor in this fine hospital and esteemed medical college. Here are the simple, unpleasant but accurate medical details if you would care to read them. In not one case when heart failure occured did even ONE of these patients return to life. The most obvious common sense would make this plain. (The professor rivets his gaze upon one young student who shifts uncomfortably in his chair). Read the details for yourself. I was there. I personally attended to these patients with the care and affection normal to any competent physician. These patients were dead. There was nothing now nor in the future that could have been done to prevent that once their hearts stopped beating. Heart failure is death. Understand this fact of life and work to do that which we CAN do to help our patients as competent physicians. I also wish to be clear to each of my students here that I will not tolerate the continuation of the pursuit of these fantasies within this institution. Further so-called "research" into heart "resuscitation" and other such delusions will be met with a swift dismissal from the company of this college. Now I wish to address the surgical method of the lobotomy in the beneficial treatment of nervous disease. (The lecture hall fades back into the past). ------------ Folks, you can't know what will become possible in the future. Today's "hopeless" case may come through cryonics just fine and laugh in your face! Trying to pretend we know what is "beyond hope" NOW is an exercise in stupidity. Yes, I said stupidity. The same stupidity of my fictitious medical professor above. The simple fact of the matter beyond our "modern" prejudices and ignorance is: NO ONE CAN KNOW WHAT WILL BE POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE. Beyond that is the other simple fact. BUT YOU CAN TRY TO SURVIVE NOW. Cryonics offers a chance for survival that is otherwise NOT available. Just my opinion based on what we DO know, which ALWAYS causes me to feel more optimistic, which, in turn, as a personal CHOICE in assessing reality has been proven to strengthen the immune system and thereby my personal chances for SURVIVAL. The short version? Pessimism shortens your life expectancy. It's also groundless. "It's always too soon to despair." - Robert Ettinger George Smith CI member and Immortalist ... and veteran of three years of daily autopsy experience in NATO. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18958