X-Message-Number: 18994 From: Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 13:26:25 EDT Subject: convergence to health Recently I said that, if civilization endures, we will probably see the end of all ordinary disease, including senescence and genetic abnormalities and results of trauma such as radiation damage or poisoning, so there should be no more "natural" death. First, I reiterate this. It's really pretty simple. A physician can sew up a cut, and he doesn't have to know if it was caused by a knife or a razor or a scalpel or a sheet of paper or a sharp fingernail. A mechanic can replace a malfunctioning or nonfunctioning carburetor, and he doesn't have to know if it was a factory defect or sand in the works or what. Moderately intelligent nanobots could spot abnormal organisms or substances or structures, or the lack of normal ones, and make suitable corrections at an early stage, without knowing anything about how or why they got there or failed to appear. The problem could also be noted and the information sent to the people upstairs for further study. As to diseases of the psyche, or personality disorders, I explicitly said that these are in a different category, and that vicious memes could be as dangerous as parasitic microorganisms. But I think these possibilities are also overplayed. After all, certain generalities and tendencies look very strong. One generality unlikely to change is that more and bigger = stronger, not always or inevitably but usually. Many people are stronger than a few, and societies--even libertarian societies--are stronger than individuals. Societies and majorities are likely to continue to realize, or in some cases come to realize, that maniacs are dangerous and must be guarded against, if not cured or eliminated. Another generality, not yet generally recognized or accepted, is that "girls just want to have fun." Everybody's basic motivation is personal satisfaction over time, which detractors call the "pleasure principle." The brain is so complex that sometimes derivative values have more effective power than basic ones, and even mere habits can overcome such basics as the survival instinct. That makes the past crazy and the present dangerous, but the future is more promising. "Diversification" is a delusion, except in superficialities. Some people in the next century may choose snow-white skin, some coal-black, and some sky-blue or grass-green--that's trivial. Some may choose wings and others fins, and that's trivial too. Essentially no one will choose stupidity or ignorance or disease over intelligence and knowledge and health, any more than they will choose death over life. Even if some people grow gills and live in the sea, and others distribute parts of themselves over continents or star systems, that is unlikely to change anything really basic. My guess therefore is that, in the important things, the future will bring convergence, not divergence. Many seemingly plausible objections could be made--for example, that we can't understand the motivation of an ant and that future varieties of transhuman may not be able to understand each other's motivations, or empathize with them. I leave the answer as an exercise for the student. Certainly it's a long way from here to there, with many a misstep possible. Calamities can happen, and the universe itself could turn out to be user-unfriendly. In one of Heinlein's stories, a time traveler made brief contact with an advanced race, and remembered only their overpowering aura of grief or despair. As I have said before, maybe that is the answer to the Fermi paradox--that intelligence is ultimately and inherently fatal, because it leads to the realization of the fundamental darkness or emptiness. But gloomy speculations should never be allowed to get the upper hand. A good future seems a probability, and we can improve the odds by our actions and attitudes. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=18994