X-Message-Number: 19078
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:57:00 -0700
Subject: Man is usually not conscious
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From:  (Tim Freeman)

In cryomsg 19061,  said:

>...This arises because basically when asked, "Are you wide awake right
>now?" the person will need to BECOME more conscious, make an internal
>and external reality check in order to answer that question.  That
>done, they promptly go back to their more normal daydreaming condition
>but now carrying the memory of "Every time I check to see if I am
>awake, I am.  Therefore I am always awake."...

For more of this, look up books written by or about Gurdjieff or
Ouspensky.

They might be right, but I never could figure out anything important
to do about the idea that one might, with effort, become more
conscious.  It is not obvious that more consciousness helps you act
more effectively in your life, and it is not obvious that there is an
effective procedure to achieve more consciousness.  It is pretty clear
that some religious cults are organized around the goal of achieving
more consciouness, but that doesn't imply that the goal is worthless.

-- 
Tim Freeman       

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