X-Message-Number: 19129 Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:22:29 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #19119 - #19128 Hi everyone --- particularly all those arguing against Bellmore! As I explained, the argument depends on a constant rate of decrease in the probability of death. ANYTHING which produces that, or ANY SET OF METHODS (with time a larger and larger set) which produces that decrease will produce immortality in a subset of the population. So far as I know there is no way to make a decrease, even a NONconstant one, which drives the probability of death to zero (0) at some future time. Even if such a way existed, it still would not prevent OUR death since we now live in a time at the probability is NOT zero. The main point here is that the METHODS by which this decrease can happen are not important. The main thing to concentrate on is that of whether or future technology can bring that probability down constantly or more than constantly. As for the happy point, we have no evidence we cannot. The sad point is that our probability of death will still remain nonzero, simply because the only function which would decrease it fast enough would be a decrease to zero TOMORROW. Or to put it more strongly, arguments about particular technical means miss the point completely. Best wishes and long long life for all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=19129