X-Message-Number: 19294 From: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 03:38:12 EDT Subject: Daemons episode two --part1_76.1dd932e0.2a3eebe4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More on daemons I have given my interpretation of daemons before, there was only a part of the story, no I'll go to episode two, or why it is interesting for cryonics. Daemons are seen by the experimenter (E. M. Drobyshevski astro-ph/0007370, astro-ph/0008020 and: 0108231) as planckian black holes but there is a detection problem with some underground particle detectors, so I suggested that they may be high number eigen states of heavy particles, may be supersymetric ones. Sprites, seen above tunderstorms would be the ionising track of newly created daemons, If the "L" quantum number is different from zero, the wave function is not spherical, for L=1, it is axial and gives a unstable configuration. So we must see a jet-like structure at the daemon creation site. For galactic dark matter, the high number states may endure for a long time, larger than the present age of the Universe, on the contrairy, daemons, limited to the gravitational potential of Earth or the Sun may live only some years or centuries, so they must be continuously created if we can observe them. When the eigen state interact with dense matter, such the Earth crust, it disintegrates and becomes localized as a point particle. This collapse of the wave function takes place at nearly the speed of light, so daemons of ordinary particles, electrons, protons and the like must be seen as relativistic objects. SUSY objects, on the other hand, are near planck mass and the world they see is very different from our own. Be in a domain of strong gravitational field, they see everything this way: For them, Earth is a near black hole 1.5 cm in radius ( think for example what would see someone on a spaceship aiming at Earth center at nearly the speed of light). Special relativity expands enormously the time for such objects, so we see them moving at some km/s when in their own reference frame they collapse towards the Earth black hole surface at nearly c. The Lorentz gamma factor for them must be in the 10 **5 range at minimum. For us, the radial direction of Earth they see is nearly the time parameter. The Planck time unit is near 10**-43 second, we can think of each such time unit as a snapshot or a picture in a movie. The outer skin of the Earth black hole is made from the pilling up of all these snapshots.(want references? look at Amazon for the book by: K.S. Thorn, R.H. Price, D.S. Macdonald, Black holes the membrane paradigm, Yale Univ. Press, 1986). We don't see them because we have no access to a very different inertial frame where one of our space dimension bent into time. Daemons would give us that possibility: They produce a realisation the the Langevin's twins think experiment: Assume an event today produce an inprint on a daemon. in one year for us, 31 millions seconds will have been added to time. For a daemon with a lorentz factor near 100 000, it will have seen only 310 seconds or one pinch above 5 minutes.One century would be only 10 hours. For a collapsing wave function taking that time to complete, we may have to look at exceeding low speed, that is, very high mass daemons made from strings or p-branes or object very near the B.H. horizon. We could detect them only by their indirect effects, they may have been seen...see physics/ 0109003 on xxx.lanl.gov : Strange forces have been detected for some minutes. That action seens correlated with solar events, so they could be non spherical large eigen states reaching Earth nearly instantly and collapsing "slowly" on the Earth black hole. Hell is underground, this is well known, indeed underground, the daemon wave would encounter more and more interaction with matter and get nearer from the BH skin. As its speed get ever closer to c, it seems fall slover and slower until near stop. This is the frozen star effect of black hole, first pointed out by Openeimer and F. Zwicky 70 years ago. The first detection experiments found them moving at some km/s in a surface laboratory, in Physics/0109003 the interaction lasted for some minutes at a 10m underground detector. It remains to know what was the selection effect of the detector on the kind of wave detected and what was attributable to the position. On gaseous planet such Jupiter, we could get far slower and so more ancien daemons giving a kind of solar system memory for may be millions of years.What about an undersea detector? Could we recover past epochs from daemons? This is a potential new technology for the centuries to come. Before it replace cryonics, we surely need it to see that time. Y. Bozzonetti. --part1_76.1dd932e0.2a3eebe4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=19294