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Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 03:38:12 EDT
Subject: Daemons episode two

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More on daemons

I have given my interpretation of daemons before, there was only a part of 
the story, no I'll go to episode two, or why it is interesting for cryonics. 
Daemons are seen by the experimenter (E. M. Drobyshevski astro-ph/0007370, 
astro-ph/0008020 and: 0108231) as planckian black holes but there is a 
detection problem with some underground particle detectors, so I suggested 
that they may be high number eigen states of heavy particles, may be 
supersymetric ones.

Sprites, seen above tunderstorms would be the ionising track of newly created 
daemons, If the "L" quantum number is different from zero, the wave function 
is not spherical, for L=1, it is axial and gives a unstable configuration. So 
we must see a jet-like structure at the daemon creation site. For galactic 
dark matter, the high number states may endure for a long time, larger than 
the present age of the Universe, on the contrairy, daemons, limited to the 
gravitational potential of Earth or the Sun may live only some years or 
centuries, so they must be continuously created if we can observe them.

When the eigen state interact with dense matter, such the Earth crust, it 
disintegrates and becomes localized as a point particle. This collapse of the 
wave function takes place at nearly the speed of light, so daemons of 
ordinary particles, electrons, protons and the like must be seen as 
relativistic objects.

SUSY objects, on the other hand, are near planck mass and the world they see 
is very different from our own. Be in a domain of strong gravitational field, 
they see everything this way: For them, Earth is a near black hole 1.5 cm in 
radius ( think for example what would see someone on a spaceship aiming at 
Earth center at nearly the speed of light). Special relativity expands 
enormously the time for such objects, so we see them moving at some km/s when 
in their own reference frame they collapse towards the Earth black hole 
surface at nearly c. The Lorentz gamma factor for them must be in the 10 **5 
range at minimum. For us, the radial direction of Earth they see is nearly 
the time parameter. The Planck time unit is near 10**-43 second, we can think 
of each such time unit as a snapshot or a picture in a movie. The outer skin 
of the Earth black hole is made from the pilling up of all these 
snapshots.(want references? look at Amazon for the book by: K.S. Thorn, R.H. 
Price, D.S. Macdonald, Black holes the membrane paradigm, Yale Univ. Press, 
1986).
We don't see them because we have no access to a very different inertial 
frame where one of our space dimension bent into time. Daemons would give us 
that possibility:

They produce a realisation the the Langevin's twins think experiment: Assume 
an event today produce an inprint on a daemon. in one year for us, 31 
millions seconds will have been added to time. For a daemon with a lorentz 
factor near 100 000, it will have seen only 310 seconds or one pinch above 5 
minutes.One century would be only 10 hours. For a collapsing wave function 
taking that time to complete, we may have to look at exceeding low speed, 
that is, very high mass daemons made from strings or p-branes or object very 
near the B.H. horizon. We could detect them only by their indirect effects, 
they may have been seen...see physics/ 0109003 on xxx.lanl.gov : Strange 
forces have been detected for some minutes. That action seens correlated with 
solar events, so they could be non spherical large eigen states reaching 
Earth nearly instantly and collapsing "slowly" on the Earth black hole.

Hell is underground, this is well known, indeed underground, the daemon wave 
would encounter more and more interaction with matter and get nearer from the 
BH skin. As its speed get ever closer to c, it seems fall slover and slower 
until near stop. This is the frozen star effect of black hole, first pointed 
out by Openeimer and F. Zwicky 70 years ago. The first detection experiments 
found them moving at some km/s in a surface laboratory, in Physics/0109003 
the interaction lasted for some minutes at a 10m underground detector. It 
remains to know what was the selection effect of the detector on the kind of 
wave detected and what was attributable to the position.

On gaseous planet such Jupiter, we could get far slower and so more ancien 
daemons giving a kind of solar system memory for may be millions of 
years.What about an undersea detector? Could we recover past epochs from 
daemons? This is a potential new technology for the centuries to come. Before 
it replace cryonics, we surely need it to see that time.

Y. Bozzonetti.

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