X-Message-Number: 19567
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:19:21 -0700
From: James Swayze <>
Subject: URL for slander slinging Daily Times Ottawa
References: <>

> Message #19564
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:15:34 -0500
> Subject: Moronic Editorial
> From: Joesph A Zarka <>
> Hello All!
>    After I learned about the Ted Williams story and all the media
> attention that cryonics was receiving I
> contacted our local paper and informed them that I was into cryonics and
> would be willing to talk to
> them about cryonics. I told them there was a lot of misinformation being
> reported. They never responded.

>    There you have it, not only are we immoral we are straight up stupid
> and gullible. I would like to see
> this editor match wits with the likes of Max More or James Halperin. The
> part that bothers me most is that
> the paper never talked to me to get a cryonicist point of view. I would
> have been happy to discuss any
> of the points the editor asked in his editorial. I would like to
> encourage cryonet readers to write letters
> to this editor. Let him know that the next time he writes about
> something, he should look at both
> sides of the story instead of writing a one sided editorial.
> Voice Of The People
> The Daily Times
> 110W Jefferson St
> Ottawa, IL 61350
> Long life
> Joseph

Here's the URL fr your paper Joseph. I will be firing off a letter or email, 
whichever it takes or both, later today. http://www.ottawadailytimes.com/

What this moron wrote borders on libel. There comes a point when the "it's 
simply an opinion" excuse no longer applies especially if damage can be shown 
and even to a group not just an individual.

Main Entry: 1li bel
Pronunciation: 'lI-b&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, written
declaration, from Middle French, from
Latin libellus, diminutive of liber book
Date: 14th century
1 a : a written statement in which a
plaintiff in certain courts sets forth the
cause of action or the relief sought b
archaic : a handbill especially attacking
or defaming someone
2 a : a written or oral defamatory
statement or representation that conveys
an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1)
: a statement or representation published
without just cause and tending to expose
another to public contempt (2) :
defamation of a person by written or
representational means (3) : the
publication of blasphemous, treasonable,
seditious, or obscene writings or pictures
(4) : the act, tort, or crime of publishing
such a libel

Here is a book discibing in depth what libel and slan=der are and how to 
litigate both for and against.


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Defamation is written or spoken injury to a person or organization's
reputation. Libel is the written act of defamation, vs. slander, the
oral act of defamation.

You often hear "Truth is the perfect defense against libel." A curious
notion, not entirely supported by what goes on in the courts. Truth
is a very good defense. It may prove an unshakable defense if you
have $50,000 for lawyers to defend it. If you don't feel like being on
the frontier of legal theory, you should build a somewhat better
defense. Add on these concepts:

Avoid the impression of malice.

State the facts, and then state your opinion separately. This
keeps things clear in your mind.

All wrong: "My neighbor John Smith is a stinking lush." This is
wildly defamatory: an unproven, malicious ("stinking" and "lush"
instead of "alcoholic") statement about a private individual.

Getting better: "Governor Smith consumed 14 glasses of whiskey
last night at The Watering Hole Bar. In my opinion he's an
alcoholic." The proof is a bit hazy -- getting drunk once does not
prove alcoholism -- but a governor is a public figure with less
protection than John Smith, you have clearly separated fact from
opinion, and there is no particular evidence of malice.

Pretty safe: "Governor Smith consumed 14 glasses of whiskey last
night at The Watering Hole Bar. I wouldn't be surprised to learn
he's an alcoholic." This is entirely fact, with no clear evidence of
malice, about a public figure.

What defamation is not.
  Generally, a statement made about an undefinable group of people
or organizations cannot be defamation. Take, "Real estate agents are
crooks." It's defamatory enough, but there is no identifiable victim.

"Most of the agents at Smith Real Estate Company are crooks" is
getting dicier, but it is still hard to define the victim.

"Smith Real Estate Company is a crooked company." Wham! You
have a victim: Smith Real Estate Company.

For more information the place to start is Bruce Sanford's Synopsis
of Libel and Privacy. It's an inexpensive, understandable little book,
with checklists of words and people to be avoided. (This is actually
written for journalists trying to avoid defamation. But it's also an
excellent, readable book for deciding whether you've been defamed.)

Sanford's book is a little gem, but we have given up on finding a
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found in daily life, which we are now offering here as a
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Fighting Slander Table of Contents

Introduction     4
How To Use This Report     5
Disclaimer     6
The Law In Brief     7
    Definitions of Defamation of Character, Slander, and
Libel     7
    Libel By the Press, and Libel By Individuals     7
    Elements of Defamation of Character, including Slander
and Libel     8
    Identifiable Victim     8
    Falsehood     8
     Malice      8
    Emotional Distress     9
    Good Defenses     9
    Truth     9
    Privilege     10
    Public Figure     10
    Satire     10
    The Comments Were Invited by the Plaintiff     11
    Opinion     11
    Libel-proof     11
    He s Dead!     11
    Words Spoken In the Heat of Anger     11
    Worthless Defenses     11
    The Right to Privacy     12
    What Is a Public Figure, Anyway?     13
    Statutes of Limitations     14
    Internet Libel     15
Sizing Up Your Situation     16
    People Who Just Don t Get It     16
    The Middle Ground     17
    Major-League Kooks     17
    Special Situations     17
    Workplace Defamation     17
    Lawsuits and Criminal Charges     18
    Internet Libel     19
    Libel By the Mainstream Press     21
    Blackmail     22
    Small Towns     22
    Sociopaths     23
    Privilege ( absolute  or  qualified )     24
Attitude     25
Before You Call a Lawyer     26
Getting the Facts     27
    Private Investigators     27
    Doing It Yourself     27
    Keeping A Log     27
Nailing Down Your Legal Situation     29
    Learning Your State s Laws     29
    Research the Laws Yourself     29
    Precedents     30
    A Warning About Precedents     30
    How To Research Jury Verdicts Without Spending a
Fortune     31
    Do It Yourself In a Legal Library     31
    Telephone Lawyers     31
    Paralegals     31
    Jury Verdict Research     32
Actually Hiring a Lawyer     33
    Finding a Slander Lawyer     33
    Start With the Cheapest Solutions     33
    Nastygrams     33
    Discovery     33
Things You Should NOT Do     35
Backlash and Common Sense     36
Last Resorts     37
Resources     38
    Jury Verdict Research Using The Internet     38
    Jury Verdict Companies     38
    Other Information About Research Jury Verdicts on the
Internet     39
    Using Search Engines to Find Jury Verdicts     40
    Jury Verdict Data from St. Louis, Missouri, and surrounding
counties     40
    Previous Employer Research Companies     45
    Books     45
Appendix     47
Hot Button Words     47
Glossary     49

Please pardon the length of this post.

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A COLLECTION of photos of me and some of my artwork:

A RADIO INTERVIEW on Dr. J's ChangeSurfer Radio program with me and the father 
of cryonics Prof.

Robert Ettinger, author of "The Prospect of Immortality": 

A RELIGION I actually recommend: 
A FAVORITE quote: Last lines of the first Star Trek the Next Generation movie.

Capt. Picard: "What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived, 
after all Number One, we're
only mortal."
Will Ryker: "Speak for yourself captain, I intend to live forever!"

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