X-Message-Number: 19764 From: "davepizer" <> References: <> Subject: Should we all get involved yet? Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:11:00 -0500 I would like to post a few comments on the subject mention in the previous noted post and one before that by Mr. Sinclair. > From: > Subject: Mike Darwin and That New Thing In Florida snip > All I can say for sure is that it takes a lot of faith to think Mr. > Darwin's admittedly exceptional skills and knowledge will ever become of > optimal use for cryonics, and one need only review archived Cryonet > postings about and by him over the years, to become quickly disillusioned > regarding such a prospect. Mike does have a reputation for "not sticking with it" on individual projects in cryonics. On the other hand, he has been involved in cryonics, in general, most (or all?) of his adult life. Mike certainly does know a lot "about" cryonics. And there are many potential situations where he could be of great utility. The problem in this current conflict seems to be what is the most valuable? - Having Mike avaiable to help with a suspension, (or other cryonics issues), at the present time, or, Protecting a covenant not-to-compete in the cryonics movement, that Mike, (I can only assume), did agree to. I can see benefits and downsides to either position in general. What is needed in this matter, for the most people to benefit (a "win-win" as they say), is a compromise between the parties where Mike is allowed to work in cryonics in certain areas, but to stop where his work would become a threat or danger to his past employer, at least up to the end of the contract period, which only has two years to run. > One does wonder, though, regarding That New Thing In Florida (now with two > names under its belt, neither of which I presently recall), and if Mr. > Darwin has indeed again found it impossible to get along with folks, now of > such stature as Bill Faloon and Saul Kent, or if it is merely a dispute > with That Guy They Hired To Run It (name not previously seen in cryonics > print and which I also do not presently recall). It will be interesting to > see how this comes out, except that right now it seems NO information is > coming out and, surprisingly, hardly anyone is even talking about it. Probably one reason why no information is coming out, is it that it may be the case that part of the agreement was that if there ever was a dispute, neither party would talk about it in public. (or something like that). Even if the restriction was only on Mike, the other party would have to also remain silent for if they could talk about it and Mike couldn't that would not be failr. Rather than see this as one party being all right and the other party being all wrong, I more see it as a disagreement, that perhaps negotiations between the parties can solve and still protect the interests of each party, rather than a lot of speculation on Cryonet. Perhaps this is an honest disagreement between two honorable parties that can be worked out so that neither gets harmed and the cryonics movement gets the benefits. Only after the parties have exhausted their options should the movement get involved in disputes like this. But then if we did not have all the facts, how could we decide who was right or wrong and what was best for us all? David Pizer Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=19764