X-Message-Number: 19846
From: Keith <>
Subject: Math and EE profs Comments related to  Message #19828 by Iggy
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 21:07:41 -0700

To Iggy



Articles recently appeared in newspapers about both of these professors who are 
also cryonicists.

Bart Kosko USC EE professor said 

"The easy promise of an afterlife undercuts the resolve to face death squarely 
and to take steps to combat death, 

just as owning fire insurance can make one lazy about making adequate fire 
precautions. 

It is far easier to just make the leap of faith--especially if almost everyone 
else leaps with you.

 This argument suggests that the nearly universal belief in a religious 
 afterlife may have slowed the 
technological assault on death and disease by decades, if not centuries."   

I think centuries.


Without religion we might have already developed the technology to prevent death
and cryopreserve 

and revive people. If only humanity had devoted all the resources spent on 
religion on life extension 

we might be concerned with other things like what to do with the next thousand 
years.


Marvin Minsky MIT professor said

"I don't think there are souls. (Believing there are) is one of the reasons we 
don't live for hundreds of years. 
There's the idea you don't have to.'' 

Iggy I have had similar experiences with religious people. 

I developed a machine for some of these people that can sort the good ones from 
the bad ones. 
It is amazingly simple.



Keith R. Dugu 

NO SPAM
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>
Comment: If you decrypted the above  message then  store it encrypted

mQGiBDULe+YRBADUywd6brECHKAiWuc2uO/fqmnkjTbuawuieSIsYSiW8u2ZEhpH
zauVhfn8+qUj0qEDzUsAy6P62zRyxMuyr6XPkqC2IgNYnJU9t0V5erATzV1DipM3
RVJY8TwaByYke2Ze7cALAXR0LcSpWfFDzCUis12WmrxXwsJKaKdo+ow2ywCg/3V8
vG6/7edhuWQaWoLkPE8bFk8D/jsRnV+RMlrz2aClkPKGzhEJ0LMRSrIE0VLATsbd
VYNnxi2U/RU7oDiZif/86l4VOs7U1GxcIfPFJpEVMjCRknq4GXiUk4mdG5lWLt3V
FikRFAkWePeSMjuAfLuXgxo+TTXvc23C7blKQCejI6rtuuEJL4EFpMYIHDk5FB1f
V6b1A/4l1ecDQVgXeEpuQScejADXDdFlAi3JId9W1oGCtJiZuIvetPO9ZgGz17oO
MJv5rdyLlP3JlEiTonGYGZHimVPqbAKooJ95ZOmat3IYJ3M6ANWod0WZd0h7ZFiV
u/e/dHKw9DY6tza2viL3gugB26VI7JWCMsM0PGd/ONJ/adHNc7QuS2VpdGggUmVu
ZSBEdWd1ZSA8a2VpdGguZHVndWVAaW50ZXJuZXRtY2kuY29tPokASwQQEQIACwUC
NQt75gQLAwIBAAoJEE79fUZZPbOixEwAoK+KDiymvtybRIhkg4RyNGCmt56EAJ99
91A2zbKAuz9y/UUcxt2PBSo56rkCDQQ1C3vnEAgA9kJXtwh/CBdyorrWqULzBej5
UxE5T7bxbrlLOCDaAadWoxTpj0BV89AHxstDqZSt90xkhkn4DIO9ZekX1KHTUPj1
WV/cdlJPPT2N286Z4VeSWc39uK50T8X8dryDxUcwYc58yWb/Ffm7/ZFexwGq01ue
jaClcjrUGvC/RgBYK+X0iP1YTknbzSC0neSRBzZrM2w4DUUdD3yIsxx8Wy2O9vPJ
I8BD8KVbGI2Ou1WMuF040zT9fBdXQ6MdGGzeMyEstSr/POGxKUAYEY18hKcKctaG
xAMZyAcpesqVDNmWn6vQClCbAkbTCD1mpF1Bn5x8vYlLIhkmuquiXsNV6TILOwAC
Agf/aykzIA0XF0OAzcibwNRYL3SgXrZHlyX1V3yjHYOv5pudtNxtUopCj63SkDFD
4EheL7j/EGngu2KbcbbE6plRK2WmdOK4KIuzBgOABoEpglBI6gScwvBDkHezVqyM
MdSbe/bzrHFp6G+hKz3fQMuM1VK2PVSYcA+7R7DtIPNh5MIOsmVcqqZsNbh93QlD
b2OKvhqitcJqNt8AHQjhQTVI5c5wmzqRtj3xnGrkeBovGfYEXEHJDH6mlQ6aIalL
3z4tDEAeCMlFYxXplU8JQ7xJPhdPgI1zQR1rihJNNBiGrfAAxT8KeS6bcxAo72+5
PXXIXg+tJDsOV6Ihi/ylWt/ygIkARgQYEQIABgUCNQt75wAKCRBO/X1GWT2zom3s
AKDssc1uowUMhZObPiKpRNvs9PjUNQCg838E1lzbDC0MGxGSVal5e2LO3Ro=
=NGwr
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=19846