X-Message-Number: 19944 Date: 29 Aug 2002 21:53:03 -0000 From: Asteromed e.V. <> Subject: Life extension forecast When humans keep on using natural consumption like they do today, the earth will change to the point where survival for many human individuals will be threatened. In this case, I would expect, by the rule of the thumb, a decrease of the world population from 10 billion to 1 billion until the year 10000. Reason for a fast decrease of population: Toxical drinking water and low quality of food, mainly caused by chemical and nuclear waist. Reason for a slow decrease of population: Toxical air and fast changes of areas with agriculture into deserts. Reasons for a very quick decrease of population: Industries are gone by war and a collapsing biological system, leaving a huge amount of toxical waist to a population who is suffering on unexpected sickness. In any case, a social component how humans use technology for the production of food will decide how slow the increase will happen. An increase does not shorten the lifetime of individual humans, but the lifetime of the number of humans as a whole. If there will be a huge asteroid moving towards earth, a very quick decrease of population may happen in 100 or 1000 years. If there will be a huge industrial output of new technologies, it may happen that a increasing number of humans settle in space, independent from a very quick decrease of population on earth. Given that humans care about the extension of their own life, the social component for use of technology will be missing. Social behavior in condition to the population on a global scale will be avoided. Humans want to live longer, but the longer they live, the harder survival will be, simply because of competition that humans create among their society. The model that the poor will die and the rich live on is not working in perfection, because it raises the question of how far the poor can deal with expensive methods for life extension. They can deal, as long as they can see an instant advantage for them, corresponding to the bread-to-mouth philosophy that they live. They can be forced to deal, as long as someone is paying for. How long can Cryonics pay? 10 years preserved, most of the poor do not know and if they would start to learn, they would receive money for their knowledge. 100 years still frozen, the poor realize, there is someone who want to survive, but does not work to pay for it. 101 year, the poor want to survive too, but actually they can not, because of lack of money. They will try to separate from Cryonics, because they realize, they have nothing but a problem with it. One week later, they demand a change in legislation to stop Cryonics. Forget Cryonics will work if it remains as it is right now. Cryonics as it is right now is cheap. But many of you seem to forget the future. You all have to receive a "standard gun" with all the chambers filled, if you do not really count enough for the cheapest life extension. SMA http://www.shintoist.com is the cheapest life extension provider to be taken as honest. So I do not understand anything about financing Cryonics, but I can see the mistakes that have been made around it. ---------------- Sent from www.shintoist.com/cgi-bin/education/cougalist.cgi by a user of www.shintoist.com/cgi-bin/education/cml-admin.cgi Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=19944